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Re: Topping Lift - How Does this work?

Yeah...all that stuff makes sense...especially when reefing, although I never reef ;-)
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Re: Topping Lift - How Does this work?

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So why are there topping lifts on boats that have a rigid boom vang?
Having had a rigid vang break, the topping lift is a good back up.

With in-mast furling you may need to use the topping lift to adjust the boom angle to get a smooth furl.

Some folks use the topping lift to help shape the sail on really light air.

I also like the topping lift as the primary or safety when ascending the mast.

At anchor or the dock you can use the topping lift to help get the boom out of the way of those in the cockpit.
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Re: Topping Lift - How Does this work?

My Pearson came with a pigtail and a non-adjustable topping lift (with bare cable). I don't like either, so when the mast was down I made a new adjustable topping lift out of 1/8" Amsteel. It's a cheap and easy project. The topping lift is a piece of 1/8" amsteel long enough to get ~2' from the boom with eye splices in each end. The top one goes to the masthead, the bottom holds a small block. 1/4" (cheap) double braid goes from the back of the boom, through that block, and back along the boom to a cleat at the front.

The problem with the pigtail is that when the wind is blowing 20 knots and you want to drop the sail you need to get the pigtail attached first or drop the boom into the cockpit. Neither is very easy or fun.

The other problem with the pigtail is that if you forget to unclip it and start sailing your boat will start to breach when you can't ease the mainsheet.

The problem with a fixed topping lift is that if your sail has much roach it will hang up on the back of the topping lift and you can't ease it enough to let it slip past. You also can't use it to reduce boom weight in very light winds and keep sail shape.
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Re: Topping Lift - How Does this work?

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So why are there topping lifts on boats that have a rigid boom vang?
After dropping the main, tightening the mainsheet against the topping lift allows you to secure the boom so it does not move. When furling the main, or just lazing about, if a crew leans against a boom without a taunt topping lift, they stand a good chance of falling on their face.

On race boats who skip the topping lift for windage/weight, the main halyard is secured to the end of the boom to fill the above need. You do not want to leave the boom to just a hard vang.
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Re: Topping Lift - How Does this work?

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I myself will be fitting a BARTON boom strut but will remove the topping liftfrom the end of the boom..
But will still require a Boom vang to hold the boom down.


I will leave the rope work there incase i find another use for it.
Cant think of a reason yet but I am sure i will be able to think of something
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you may still find that you need the lift. it is hard to set it up for the boom only and the boom plus the sail weight. if you increase the tension on the rods it can lift both but you will need to limit the up travel with the boom vang. after a while the rods start to loose some spring and the boom sags. the topping lift is still needed so you can tighten the main sheet to keep it from moving to the side when leaned on. the vang will not keep the boom centered. I don't have a topping lift but use the main halyard when the main is not up.
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Re: Topping Lift - How Does this work?

Can a topping lift ever cause damage if it is too tight under sail? Could it damage the boom? My topping lift is wire (I plan to change to line), and it has cut into the aluminum sheeve support at the top of the mast. Not sure if this was due to being under too much tension while sailing or being loose and moving around at that location. Line should limit the wear on the mast.
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Re: Topping Lift - How Does this work?

GREETINGS EARTHLINGS:- Try scanderlizing the main using the topping lift (lifts the boom and bags the main taking all drive out of it). this is used when your doing MOB or sailing into an anchorage or mooring making the boat more manoverable. Just try playing with all your sail configurations to find the best for the application. AS ALWAYS GO SAFE
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Re: Topping Lift - How Does this work?

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Can a topping lift ever cause damage if it is too tight under sail? Could it damage the boom? ...
If you have mid-boom sheeting, if the topping lift is not loose(enough), say after reefing, when you trim hard for closehauled, you stand a good chance of breaking the boom. Or at least we did...
My practice became to set the topping lift on the first beat of the new season, so there is just a little slack, then dont touch again for the season. Worked well for us...
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Re: Topping Lift - How Does this work?

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If you have mid-boom sheeting, if the topping lift is not loose(enough) when you trim hard for closehauled, you stand a good chance of breaking the boom. Or at least we did...
I set the topping lift on the first beat of the new season, so there is just a little slack, then dont touch again for the year. Worked well for us, any the new boom will last longer.
Good point. I have end boom sheeting, but rather the topping lift and main sheet not be "fighting" each other.
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Re: Topping Lift - How Does this work?

My topping lift always seems to tangle in the mains battens.
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