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Re: Cruising vs. Voyaging

Crusing is open ended, determined only, if then, by a vague schedule,
Voyaging is crusing wiht fixed destinations, rather than a schedule.
For example, one can cruise for three years aimlessly. One can only voyage with a destination in mind, even if it take three years.
The difference is subtle, but different nonetheless.
Like the difference between dieting and weightloss. The former is process driven with no firm goal, the latter is goal driven, process be damned.
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Re: Cruising vs. Voyaging

Think what Hannah2 does is voyaging. What I hope to spend the rest of my life doing is cruising. For instance, They will cross the pond when they want and feel it's safe - I will go with the ARC or other group perhaps several times before going on my own.They will be off the grid often. I will be only for a week or two at a time. Newport to BVI may be a voyage but a cruiser will work to pick his weather window, feel no reluctance to bail out to Bermuda and not push on the trip. This is not to say Hannah2 is not a prudent sailor but rather they are more experienced and confident in themselves. I love the idea of doing the north Atlantic gyre. It's on the bucket list.
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I VOYAGE to my CRUISING destination, when there I will go where the wind and tide takes me.
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Re: Cruising vs. Voyaging

They're just words. Do what you want to do and enjoy it. Who cares what you, or anyone else, calls it?
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Re: Cruising vs. Voyaging

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They're just words. Do what you want to do and enjoy it. Who cares what you, or anyone else, calls it?
Well words help define things, put them in focus, even if it's just in your own mind.

Maybe a better way to define my thinking: with cruising I'm still living at home, still have a job here, still have ties; voyaging I'm selling the house & car and setting out over the horizon.

Interesting that the meaning of the words seems to be the opposite for some folks...
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The big difference may be in the amount of planning required and maybe the amount of provisions in the lockers. Also, the modifications done to the boat to accommodate setting off across an ocean.
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Re: Cruising vs. Voyaging

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Crusing is open ended, determined only, if then, by a vague schedule,
Voyaging is crusing wiht fixed destinations, rather than a schedule.
For example, one can cruise for three years aimlessly. One can only voyage with a destination in mind, even if it take three years.
The difference is subtle, but different nonetheless.
Like the difference between dieting and weightloss. The former is process driven with no firm goal, the latter is goal driven, process be damned.
Yes, Voyage has a goal, say circumnavigation, it turns into cruising when you just wander around the islands without making progress on your goal, then heads back to a voyage when you leave the islands and head to another spot.

So in the OP's proposition, he could do one to two year voyages, or one to two year cruses, depends on if there is a goal. You could say I am going to go hang out in the islands for two years and see what happens (cruising) or you could say I am going to make it all the way around the islands (Voyage) depends on how regimented you want to be, and it can be a mixed thing.

That is the way I see it.
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Cruising = Repairing your boat in a warm place.

Voyaging = Pretty much the same/

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Re: Cruising vs. Voyaging

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Crusing is open ended, determined only, if then, by a vague schedule,
Voyaging is crusing wiht fixed destinations, rather than a schedule.
For example, one can cruise for three years aimlessly. One can only voyage with a destination in mind, even if it take three years.
The difference is subtle, but different nonetheless.
Like the difference between dieting and weightloss. The former is process driven with no firm goal, the latter is goal driven, process be damned.
I think you are neglecting the influence of seasonal weather changes in your definitions. In very few locales can you wander aimlessly for years at a time without bumping into things like winter or tropical storm season. Even if you are cruising by your definition you still have to make progress to a weather-defined goal - either haul out or being out of the main hurricane zone at certain times.

These two terms are relative as well. For one person, cruising happens in a one week summer holiday, for someone else it is an open-ended lifestyle. Similarly, for voyaging. Some time ago, someone mentioned going offshore as crossing Lake Ontario diagonally. At one stage of experience that is voyaging. Define these terms as you will.
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Re: Cruising vs. Voyaging

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I VOYAGE to my CRUISING destination, when there I will go where the wind and tide takes me.
That is not bad as a way to see it and that is what most of us do. That means that actually the boat is much more time "cruising" than voyaging and the design of the boats on the market reflects that reality.

A voyage boat will only make sense for those that take more time on the Voyage (actually sailing non stop) than on the cruising grounds. There are some that actually do that, some that even circumnavigate without stop (that is the essence of voyaging) and for those clearly the type of boat should reflect different needs and the absence of others. This would give an ideal boat very different from the first one.

Actually all boats on the market with offshore capability reflects both needs in a compromise but the ones that have in much major account "cruising" are much more than the ones that take a significant compromise towards "voyaging" simply because the ones that voyage more than they cruise are very few.

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