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Re: Sailboat perishes off Hatteras, USCG rescues crew

That's very confusing: they were experienced deliver skippers and went out of port with a not good forecast with half a tank of fuel, enough to reach destination if the boat could make 6K??????

And then it seems they started to run out of fuel because they could not make that speed motoring???? What about sailing? They don't talk about huge winds 40mph???? The boat is bouncing around because it is not stabilized and tied to a side by small storm sails. Very confusing all that.
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Re: Sailboat perishes off Hatteras, USCG rescues crew

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There have many posts on SailNet about Island Packets being blue-water boats. I don't get it.
The boat seemed fine to me and it doesn't sound like it was sinking.

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Thirty-eight hours later, a Coast Guard helicopter rescued them off Cape Lookout, N.C., amid pounding rain, 55-knot winds, 30-foot waves and the sensation, Southward said, that the ocean was tossing their 15-ton craft, Andante II, "like a cork in a hot tub."
How many boats would you want to be in those conditions in? How many would still be floating?

Sounds like they abandoned to reduce the risk, which wasn't a bad decision, but the fact the boat was still floating, had her rig, and hadn't capsized speaks highly of her, IMO anyway.
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Re: Sailboat perishes off Hatteras, USCG rescues crew

That was an incredible video, man, those USCG people are awesome!!!!
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Re: Sailboat perishes off Hatteras, USCG rescues crew

Waiting to see if jon or Dave know these delivery skippers. S/V Audsicious might as he is from Annapolis.

I dont have their experinece but I question anyones judgement to run Oregon Inlet even on a calm day. The other two Hatteras and Okrakoke are extremely dangerous also and have shifting bouys. I have gone out Okrakoke once in a large power boat and would never attempt it in a sailboat in any weather.

March,,,the season on Noreeasters.....passing around Hatterass.... storm potentiallly in a day.........not sound judgement IMHO.

I am glad they are alive.
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Re: Sailboat perishes off Hatteras, USCG rescues crew

They were professionals....just doing the job that only professionals can do.

Let's see, the owner is out of a nice boat....half a million dollars. Or, perhaps it's the insurance company, which will increase rates the rest of us have to pay to cover their losses on such situations.

I wonder if the "professionals" will bill the owner for their services? And whether they will pay the Coast Guard for the rescue? And how much will the rescue swimmer get?

Now, I don't know much about blue water sailing, being just an inshore sailor, but from their own description, these professionals didn't seem very professional. Kind of stupid, actually. What was the urgency to sail with the forcast they had, why didn't they go inside down the ICW, how about fuel arrangements, and securing the boat so that things don't fly around?
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Re: Sailboat perishes off Hatteras, USCG rescues crew

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In 30 foot, breaking waves in a noreaster, even the toughest bluewater cruiser would likely get pummeled to the point of rescue.
Really? So no one has ever survived those conditions?

Do you believe in summoning the USCG just because you are "pummeled"?

How about waiting until the boat is sinking, or is that too inconvenient?
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Re: Sailboat perishes off Hatteras, USCG rescues crew

Why did they not just put the sails up and head out to open water instead of risking the CG's lives in a dangerous night rescue. They say they are sailors- then sail......


The conditions do not look that bad, paper says 40 knot wind and 10 foot seas. That is a day sail. Why does the sailor say he was lifted 30 feet but when you see video, you do not see anything rising and falling 30 feet?

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Re: Sailboat perishes off Hatteras, USCG rescues crew

i will bet the salvage guys are already towing it in still floating. 1/2 mil for a days work
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hubris comes to mind when taking a motor sailor out into a know storm ?
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Re: Sailboat perishes off Hatteras, USCG rescues crew

Clowns!

*Decided to sail with a questionable forecast (nor'easter in March!!?!) into the gulf stream and into the graveyard of the Atlantic.

*Motored. Didn't sail, hove to or try to ride out the storm in open water.

*Tried to enter an inlet during a storm. And the inlets mentioned aren't even recommended under calm conditions for a sailboat.

*Could have easily taken a different route with little loss of time. The ICW is right there. Many sailors take it to Beaufort and then pop out to the ocean, even when they could safely transit via the ocean.


The captain is really a graduate of the Merchant Marine academy and an experienced delivery captain? Doesn't sound like it.

I'm not saying that I haven't made mistakes sailing. We all do. But it's this kind of ignorance that often leads to a dangerous Coast Guard rescue and loss of a half million dollar boat.

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