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So that means insurance will be covering this one?

I hope it is not Boat/US or my insurance will be going up next year thanks to these knuckleheads...
You realize that insurance costs get pooled by re-insurers.

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Re: Sailboat perishes off Hatteras, USCG rescues crew

So rates will not be going up due to all the losses from Super Storm Sandy?

Similarly, if an insurance company sustains a number of significant losses paid out, there is no need to raise premiums?

Wow, I am learning something new every day!
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Kudos to that CG rescue team. Any confirmation that the boat sank?
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Re: Sailboat perishes off Hatteras, USCG rescues crew

beginner's luck...? disguised by false media reports of solid credentials? Or maybe just a piece of paper from ACME mail-order Capt's license Co. of Paramus,NJ..?...Either way they had some sensational luck to be in range of the fine life-saving services of US Coast Guard.
Thank god they apparently didn't try to raise the sails as Eisberg mentioned...wonder if they even knew how...

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My insurance rates went up $300 this year(Boat US). No claims. .??
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Re: Sailboat perishes off Hatteras, USCG rescues crew

After the loss of Bounty, some incidents out in California, and now this, all in such a short span of time, there are some experienced skippers out there, saying that we are nearing a tipping point where the government and USCG may start imposing more regulation on offshore operations, or even inshore recreational sailing.

We do NOT want this. There is an unwritten rule in the sport rock-climbing world that seems very appropriate to sailing as well:

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The rule is, "Don't make a mess, don't make the news, and don't make paperwork for authorities." Or fun-time goes away, my friends. For everyone.
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most of the population doesn't understand what we are doing. They are sitting on the couch staring at the tube, or sitting behind a desk goggling at the expense reports for SAR, or looking at your tattered slings marring the rock or abandoned sailboat on their beach, & certain ideas are forming in their heads. Like, "Why are we paying a ton of money to subsidize the crazy, irresponsible activities of a small group of people? Shut 'em down!"
We'd better clean up our act, or we're going to find our sport under attack, and our freedoms infringed upon.

Yes, we all make mistakes but the "Dial 911 for minor troubles" attitude is going to ruin it for all of us.

Spread the word.
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I am not going to armchair QB these guys... I wasn't there at the time in those conditions. I'll leave it at that. Somewhere in the reading that I did, I picked up that these guys were getting paid $7K for the delivery, and that the owner is supportive of their efforts, and decision to ditch.

Island Packet DOES build SOME bluewater boats. However the SP Cruiser ain't one of 'em.

Essentially the SP cruiser is a trawler with a bigger mast and a sail;


These were introduced in 2008, and seem to be targeted at the crowd that can't decide if they want a sailboat, or a trawler (or a Winnebago). 41' LOA and 3' 8" draft, with 110HP diesel.

Not my cup of tea, but Island Packet seems to be selling a bunch of them. Prices in YW range from $300K to $625K.
I think they are kind of cool.
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Re: Sailboat perishes off Hatteras, USCG rescues crew

As a former delivery captain I can say I would NEVER round cape hatteras under any circumstances when on a delivery if the vessel was ICW capable. There are just too many unknowns on a boat that you are unfamiliar with. I can't tell you how many deliveries I have done when there were hidden issues with the boat that didn't show up until well into the trip. Contaminated fuel, battery issues, rigging issues, you name it. Part of the responsibility of a delivery captain is to minimize risk. Going outside Hatteras with few viable inlets in a coastal cruiser is just plain idiotic and irresponsible. Period.
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After the loss of Bounty, some incidents out in California, and now this, all in such a short span of time, there are some experienced skippers out there, saying that we are nearing a tipping point where the government and USCG may start imposing more regulation on offshore operations, or even inshore recreational sailing.
If it becomes anything like the FAA.....

You think boating is expensive now? Just wait till the gov't gets their grimy hands on it!
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Re: Sailboat perishes off Hatteras, USCG rescues crew

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After the loss of Bounty, some incidents out in California, and now this, all in such a short span of time, there are some experienced skippers out there, saying that we are nearing a tipping point where the government and USCG may start imposing more regulation on offshore operations, or even inshore recreational sailing.
Like who? Is this stuff in writing or just dock rats spicing up their rants? Any links you can share? You can find people saying every sorta BS around marinas and boatyards or . . ..
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