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Re: Canadian sailing + heating ?

Espar here too.
My system was installed when the boat was new on lake Huron and still works great.
We sail well into November. In the morning I get up, switch it on and go back to bed. 20 mins. later the cabin is toasty warm.
Use it all winter when working on projects.
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Re: Canadian sailing + heating ?

The best advice so far: dress against the cold.
Blankets and quilts/sleeping bags on the berths, fleece/sweaters, a good hat and especially windbreakers on deck.
Boots to keep your feet warm and gloves for your fingers.
We launch the middle of May and haul the middle of October and have never felt the need for any heating on board.
My wife is a bit of a princess when it comes to being warm, but she hasn't complained yet.
Sure it can be brisk some mornings, but that just inspires you to get the coffee on quicker.
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Re: Canadian sailing + heating ?

Like others have said you can do without. But if you come across a deal on a wood fire place/ heater and have room it sure would be nice to get warm and dry the air. Easy to find wood along the shore for free.
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Re: Canadian sailing + heating ?

I have sailed every month in the PNW. I do not use a heater at night while I sleep. I use a -10,0 C sleeping bag all year long.

During the day, poly underwear, fleece, very good foulies, boots (DuBarry - a real luxury). synthetic liners in rubber gloves. watch cap. Good to go.

I have sailed on a boat with a wood fireplace: 1939 Norwegian fishing boat 72 foot gaff rigged ketch.
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Re: Canadian sailing + heating ?

I'm a Canadian and look what I have. It's a solid fuel fireplace.
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Re: Canadian sailing + heating ?

Had bulkhead oil fired on a Tayana- always made me nervous- fire and burn hazard. (Wood would be worse dirty and risk of bringing bugs into the boat. Wood takes up room so hard in a small boat). Stack sucked the warm air out of boat. Most heat was radiant. Ends of boat still cold. New ones have separate intake from deck. Solves some problems. Still makes me nervous underway. Some won't work beyond a limited angle of heel.
Have espar on the PSC. -Works great. Can control degree of heat. Uses very little fuel. Furnace in port cockpit locker so takes up very little room.
Have Webasto hydroponic on the new boat. - same comfort as a dirt house. Also very efficient. Can have separate zones.
Think being warm is a safety issue. When cold make poor decisions. Hard to work the boat. Having a good dodger is key. Need someplace to be on deck and out of the wind.
Realize espar/webasto etc. use electricity. The draw is small but needs to be added to your daily use formula
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Re: Canadian sailing + heating ?

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I'm a Canadian and look what I have. It's a solid fuel fireplace.
Blimey Jon, your boat is massive inside. Not sure those portholes are going to stand up to much green water though. And you might want to fix some of your furniture down.
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Re: Canadian sailing + heating ?

if you have room and diesel power, a diesel bulkhead heater is the way to go.
if you have no room, diesel power and $4000 to spare, a Wallas or Espar is the way to go.
If you have the room, no diesel, but have propane, a propane bulkhead heater is the way to go.
If you have the room, no diesel, no propane, an alcohol heater is the way to go.
If you have little room, no diesel, no alcohol, no propane, and a small budget, a Fatsco solid fuel stove is the way to go

If you have none of the above, dress warmer.

Some folks like the idea of an overturned flowerpot on a lit stove burner. Personanlly I use a propane tent heater and a fan to keep air circulating.
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Re: Canadian sailing + heating ?

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A great options list. Bang on.
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Re: Canadian sailing + heating ?

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What is the safest, easiest way to heat your boat when sailing the northern Canadian side of Lake Superior ?
We have a diesel Westabo forced air heater. It's very easy to use, takes no cabin space, and sips a small amount of fuel from our primary fuel tank. The downside is that they are pretty expensive ($2-3k). It's warmest in our (small) aft cabin/quarterberth, but does a good job in the main cabin as well.

I don't use it while sleeping, but it's nice to use it and take the edge off on a cool morning.

Electric heat would be a non-starter on a boat, you'd need a crazy amount of batteries. Most household electric heaters consume ~1000 watts. On a typical sailboat with 2 batteries you have about 1000 watt hours of useful battery capacity (drawing two 12v ~90 amp hour batteries down halfway). That would mean one hour of heat.
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