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I will be purchasing a older sailboat very shortly. The owner and myself are still negotiating a price but all looks good. The plywood interior is rotten and will need to be replaced. Since this will be done I figured its a good time to upgrade plumbing and electrical as well. I'm confused on the fresh water tank. Why do I need it? This boat is 26 ft long. I live in illinois. It will never be on an ocean. I plan on sailing lake Michigan. Could I pull water from the lake with a screen then use a filter system to make water?
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How much is the owner paying you to take the boat away? rotten interior....
You could pull lake water but you would need special filters like those used by survivalists, I still have them from when I was into backpacking. http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/Backpacking-Water-Filter-Reviews
You will be able to carry more then enough water on the boat. and it's easy to refill when you go into marinas and other places boaters go.
Suggestion; keep and or upgrade the systems on any boat you get.
Consider resale value. If the boat came standard with a freshwater tank, and you remove it, you will be seriously reducing the resale value of the boat.
Mike - While Lake Michigan water is drinkable as-is in an emergency situation, filtration/purification will be necessary using either a purpose-built water filter or iodine tablets, etc to avoid bacteria. Given the ease of carrying potable water (bottles, jugs, etc.), I really don't think using lake water is necessary.
We have a 70 gallon freshwater tank aboard our boat that we keep partially full with hose water from the dock. We only use it for washing dishes and our hands. We carry bottled water (or larger jugs if cruising) for drinking.
I agree with Denise; keep it. The next buyer may REALLY want it, and if you don't have it, you won't get the sale.
Personally, I don't think I'd ever drink the water in my FW system (at least, not until I pull out the tank and disinfect it, and replace all the hoses). But I have friends and family aboard, and sometimes it is nice to be able to wash your hands.
My thought was gut the tank and use lake water for hand washing and head. Then install a ro system for drinking water with a uv light. I just thought this made more sense than leaving a tank onboard that needs cleaning and smells If you neglect it and it sounds like most won't drink it anyway.
Ok more about the boat. Cabinets, teak, cushions, sails, are in good shape the boat has been stored indoors for 5 years. Unfortunately water got inside. The floor is built up with plywood and carpeted. The floor is mushy in spots I expect it will all need replacing and carpet.
My purchase price is swapping for a job I did. My out of pocket expense is around $800.00. Now for the kicker. This boat is 1976 reinnall 26 foot.
Through my research reinnall is not looked at highly. Its not to late for me to walk on this deal but I fealt the price is right and I have the ability to undertake this project. Keep in mind this my first sailboat. I have owned power boats in the past.
Have you looked at the NADA/BoatUS listing on the value of the boat, and have you priced out the cost of the repairs you must undertake? I suspect that the cost of the repairs will far exceed the value of the boat once repaired.
For $800 you can low ball someone and get a fair-condition, ready to sail 22-25' sailboat that has a better reputation and doesn't look so weird.
To each their own, though. Good luck - I'd keep the water tank if you get the boat, it doesn't hurt anything being there and empty, and people like to wash their hands with fresh(ish) water more than lake water.
How clean is the lake water? A filter will remove biological contaminants, but it won't remove hydrocarbons (fuel) or pesticides. I filter a lot of water from back-country ponds and lakes, but typically won't filter from large bodies of water with lots of motor traffic and runoff.
If the water is safe after filtering then I'd recommend a gravity filter (MSR and Platypus make good ones). They will filter about a gallon of water in 5 minutes with no work on your part. A pump style backpacking filter is slightly smaller but will filter a gallon of water with 5 minutes of continuous pumping.
Don’t get us wrong. We want you to pursue your dreams of sailing. That’s what we are all about. We just want you to get a boat that will serve you well. Remember a faulty first boat can become your last boat
If you do get it, I would not use carpet on the floor. I would even use the most slip resistant vinyl tile I could find before using carpet, as it is just a mold factory in a boat.
The hull is actually a Gary Mull design and ought to be similar to the California Ranger 26.. but the deck and, I think, the execution is sup par, esp the finish materials used below (IIRC a mohair style of headliner.. carpet everywhere (agree with miataPaul about that).. again, better boats are easily available, ultimately cheaper than what this one is likely to end up at.
If the boat requires new bulkheads then there is a fair investment and work effort before you can even sail it. Not having a good interior will make it harder to sell when you out grow it. Those are good reasons to look for a better boat.
"Free" boats rarely seem to be really free. I think most are probably more expensive than decently cared for but simple $5000 boats.
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