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O'Day DS or Flying Scot?

Thanks everyone again for ALL input up to now, I really appreciate. Keep it coming! It's hard to argue someone's personal experience, so I value it all.

Being kinda lazy, I've gotten pretty good at not flipping even Butterfly's and Sunfishes, being quick to dump main or head up or both, so unless a larger dink is REALLY unstable, I think I can keep her on her bottom. Don't want to flip when we're out for a leisurely sail with kids or non-sailors. I typically also won't go out if winds are more than 12-15 knots. The DS has my eye, and the Rhodes 19 looks interesting but doesn't appear much larger than these others in the cockpit. Budget would be <$3000. I've found FS and DS at or under this, looks like Rhodes run a bit more.

Gonna go out in a Sonar soon, which sounds awesome, but I think they're $5-10k used.
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Re: O'Day DS or Flying Scot?

I have owned and raced a Flying Scot for over 7 years. And since I bought a fixer-upper (I'm #1 on Google "Balsa Repair"), I know quite a bit about factory support and construction.

Over the last 7 years, the scot fleet at GRSA.org (Richmond, VA) has doubled to approximately 35 boats, while the DS fleet has vanished (they don't even have a start anymore).

I spent a very long day sailing a DS in our club point to point race and quickly realized that the scot is far more comfortable. I'm pretty sure just as many DS have been capsized at our club (though in truth we avg less than 1/yr). T

The cockpit design of the DS puts a lot of weight in the stern so if you sail with more than two people, it is pretty slow in a DS. Last weekend we had our family of 5 sitting comfortably on the windward bench in our scot and hit 8.5 mph. The scot is the perfect family boat!

I've trailered my scot a few times and do not really enjoy the 20 minute setup, but I can't think of a comparable boat that is much easier. I trailer it with a minivan or station wagon and it pulls easily.

If you enjoy racing, the scot fleet is VERY competitive (several sailmakers race in NAs) but without the "arms race" that DS fleet has. The scot one-design is very restrictive and I appreciate it. One several occasions I have matched boat speed with district champs in my 50 year old #338 and the builder still races and wins with hull #1.

I could recommend a scot more strongly. If you can, try to sail both boats and see what you like better.
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O'Day DS or Flying Scot?

5 people sitting on one side of the Scot, that's about all I need to know, thanks! Roomy, stable , fast , that equals fun for me
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Re: O'Day DS or Flying Scot?

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If you really want to have room to take the family out, why not just get a Catalina 22? They have a 500# swing keel, and plenty of form stability. Can still be trailer launched. Probably same price as a Flying Scot. (BTW, I'm going to look at an International FJ this weekend... full circle)
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O'Day DS or Flying Scot?

I don't think the cockpit area of a 22' keelboat is any larger than a Scot. In fact, smaller in my experience. I've been on 25' keelboats that 4 adults were cramped on. Have fun with the IFJ
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Re: O'Day DS or Flying Scot?

Nor can a Catalina 22' get up on a plane.
Much more exciting in a Flying Scot.
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Re: O'Day DS or Flying Scot?

I don't think many pirates sail either, really.
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