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Here for coastal operations they use RIBs (more usually), proper ones not the Navy one that was involved or small self rightening rescue boats. Near the beach or in the Surf they use also helicopters and Jet skys. On that rescue, a jet sky was also there (they use them to reach the victims faster and to carry them to the bigger boats) and an helicopter.
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Over here (down under) they've started using these in a dual Pilot/Rescue role:


Here's a link to some pics of one out in The Rip on a sunny summers day:

http://www.hartmarine.com.au/index.p.../our-history-4
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If that happened over here, there would be a major coronial inquest and people in authority would be reprimanded for mis-managing the situation! ...
It seems that after all they are running not one but 3 different inquest not regarding mis-managing the situation but to know why a maritime police died. It turns out that he was wearing a live vest with an automatic system that did not worked when he hit the water. They keep it secret while they were running the inquiries but today come to the public that was the main object of the investigation. He would be probably alive if the life vest had worked properly.

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It seems that after all they are running not one but 3 different inquest not regarding mis-managing the situation but to know why a maritime police died. It turns out that he was wearing a live vest with an automatic system that did not worked when he hit the water. They keep it secret while they were running the inquiries but today come to the public that was the main object of the investigation. He would be probably alive if the life vest had worked properly.
Do they say if it was a manual one or automatic, Paulo?

I know some rescue-people here who don't like using automatic PFDs in case they inflate at the wrong time - but they are taking a risk also that they'll be concious when they hit the water...
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It was an Automatic with salt pills. When the body was recovered the body the life vest was not inflated.

Typically here they say little when an inquiry is on. They say they are going to see if that was a maintenance problem or a defect and that's why several inquiries. One of them is looking at how the maintenance of life saving devices is made.
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I know some rescue-people here who don't like using automatic PFDs in case they inflate at the wrong time - but they are taking a risk also that they'll be concious when they hit the water...
We went on with a different aproach when I was an active Lifeguard.
Captain + one of the Crew automatic PFD, the designated rescue swimmer manual pfd

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IThey say they are going to see if that was a maintenance problem or a defect and that's why several inquiries. One of them is looking at how the maintenance of life saving devices is made.
Just need to check if the Floatationg Body is Ok, If not old vs new damage and if the pressure cylinder punctured or not
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you need a "Gram" scale to weigh the CO2 bottles of the life jackets. Some have been known to leak out over a period of time. Weigh the blessed thing before installing it and then once every quarter or so. This also includes the spares you have stowed below and almost forgotten about.
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