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Check out my sheet to tiller steering

After reading some threads on here about sheet to tiller steering I had to try it out. I finally found some blocks that could snap on to the genoa track and also to the stern pulpit and got the lowest stretch small diameter line I could find at WM.

I also cut some bungees to size of varied thickness and strength for the resistance.

So I've since found out that this simple idea actually works on my boat, a 85 Cal 27 MK 3. It sails a close reach to close hauled very well with no input on the tiller.

Today it was blowing S 15 kts gusting to mid 20's on Tampa Bay so I had to take it out and take some pics. My bungees found a hiding spot on the boat so they are not pictured. You don't really need them on my boat when the wind is steady around 15kts. She needs some weather helm to stay straight.

Anyway once you set it up there's nothing left to do so I waited for a good shot of the rail down in a gust from my vantage sitting/standing on cabin top.

Check it out.
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Re: Check out my sheet to tiller steering

Cals will do that. I like 'em. My 65 Soverel 28 does it pretty well with a tied off tiller close hulled. great picks. I just did the first stage of installing my new Capehorn wind vane yesteday, finishing today.
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Re: Check out my sheet to tiller steering

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Cals will do that. I like 'em. My 65 Soverel 28 does it pretty well with a tied off tiller close hulled. great picks. I just did the first stage of installing my new Capehorn wind vane yesteday, finishing today.
Ians, your solution looks great and is where I am with using the wind to help me steer. Capt.arron, please post some pictures of your instal too, if possible.

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Re: Check out my sheet to tiller steering

Very cool.
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Re: Check out my sheet to tiller steering

Nice pictures, and a great way to minimize the use of your autohelm (and battery power)!
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Re: Check out my sheet to tiller steering

I need a little clarification.

I see the bungee from the stern pulpit to the tiller.
I see what looks like a small line across the cockpit, going to the lazy jib track.
What is connected to what, in this photo?

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Re: Check out my sheet to tiller steering

The small line tied to the mainsheet is going across the cockpit and routed to the tiller on the windward side. It is attached to the tiller via a slip knot one of my rock climbing buddies showed me that works really well. You just slide the knot up to add more tension. In the pic the knot is about 3 inches away from the block. This is fine because you only get a couple inches pull from where I had it attached to the mainsheet.

In a gust the mainsheet loads up and pulls the little green line which s pulls the tiller to windward. This gives you enough weather helm to maintain course and not round up in gusts. After the gust the main depowers and eases the tiller to give less weather helm.

You are supposed to use bungees on the opposite side to pull the tiller to leeward in a lull so you don't fall off and jibe. The wind was strong enough yesterday where the boat still had weather helm in the lulls.
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Re: Check out my sheet to tiller steering

This sounds very cool. I now see where the small line is tied to the mainsheet, but all I see on the tiller, is the bungee.

Sorry to be a pest, but this is pretty interesting. Would you mind posting a diagram and parts list for the visually impaired?
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Re: Check out my sheet to tiller steering

I'll see if I can put something together or take some pics this weekend. There are actually no bungees on the tiller in the pics. I couldn't find them yesterday and still can't. When it is windy enough I don't really need the bungees.


The loop around the tiller is the green line that is routed from the mainsheet. It is held in place on the tiller with friction and the little metal job where the auto tiller would mount.

I'll find some better pics but there are other diagrams out online and youtube videos...just google sheet to tiller steering. My setup is very basic but works well for my boat. This doesn't work downwind...haven't started on that one yet.

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Re: Check out my sheet to tiller steering

We have sailed thousands of miles with nothing more than a piece of surgical tubing running from the tiller to a windward cleat.

"What! You mean you do not have to go out and spend a few thousand $$$ for brand name self steering gear??"

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