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jimgo 04-18-2013 08:06 AM

Toying with an idea (stern perch seats)
 
I really like the idea of stern perch seats (catbird seats), but my stern rail is only a single rail, it sits kind of high, and the way the rail curves around the cockpit at the corner means I'd basically be making a loveseat on each corner, not a single chair.

Here's what my transom looks like:
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/...ps04b1b659.jpg

Rather than having the seat sit up high, on top of the rail, I was thinking of suspending it below the rail. Here's my idea:

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/...psf6839065.png

I was thinking of using something like this as the "hinge":
Rail Mount Hinge

And something like this as the O-ring:
New Stainless Steel O Rings 1-1/2"


I did the drawing yesterday, and then, as I thought about it more, I realized that I could/should put feet on the bottom of the chair to help take some of the strain off the stern rail.

So, aside from the very wise advice (which will probably be heeded in this case) to not make changes to your boat the first year, what are your thoughts?

msmith10 04-18-2013 08:52 AM

Re: Toying with an idea (stern perch seats)
 
Rather than suspend it from the pulpit, why not lay a board diagonally across the cockpit combing in the quarter? I did that on my boat: took a 3/4" mahogany board about 18" long, attached 4 long bolts to the plank in positions that would keep allow me to drop the board over the combing and they would hold the board in place. Put pieces of tygon tubing over the bolts so they wouldn't scratch the glass. Move it from one side to the other as needed or get rid of it entirely when not wanted.

bljones 04-18-2013 09:34 AM

Re: Toying with an idea (stern perch seats)
 
My concern with your plan is that, looking at how the stern rail itself is mounted, with the seat being essentially cantilevered inboard of the two sternrail mounting pads, you will definitely need some a support leg to take the weight.
So, if you have to add one leg, might as well add three. mount it directly to the coaming with 90 degree rail fittings:

http://www.defender.com/thumbs/755997_t.jpg
installed to the coaming and the seat bottom, and stainless tube as your coaming mount legs, with a stainless tube leg tipped with a rubber foot as your third, inboard, leg. Add some padding to the rail as a backrest, and you're good to go. You can make your legs as tall as you want, and with the right height and seat shape access to the stern cleats is not compromised.

AirborneSF 04-18-2013 09:45 AM

Re: Toying with an idea (stern perch seats)
 
From the 'pic's', it 'looks' as if the 'lifeboat' davit's are in the way?

svHyLyte 04-18-2013 10:03 AM

Re: Toying with an idea (stern perch seats)
 
Make yourself a one leg milking stool such as pictured below with a rubber tipped "toe" and nice padded seat and a lanyard to keep the thing from going adrift when it's not needed. You can position it wherever convenient. BTDT



http://www.kaboodle.com/hi/img/b/0/0...=1298482937000

msmith10 04-18-2013 12:05 PM

Re: Toying with an idea (stern perch seats)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by svHyLyte (Post 1018033)
Make yourself a one leg milking stool such as pictured below with a rubber tipped "toe" and nice padded seat and a lanyard to keep the thing from going adrift when it's not needed. You can position it wherever convenient. BTDT



http://www.kaboodle.com/hi/img/b/0/0...=1298482937000

Just make sure you keep it right side up when sitting.

dockbumdan 04-18-2013 02:15 PM

Re: Toying with an idea (stern perch seats)
 
Sternperch makes a rail kit with adds the second lower rail. Then you can make your own seat/cushion. here's the link. you can surely make the rail yourself http://www.zarcor.com/products/stern....php:rolleyes:

Philzy3985 04-18-2013 02:43 PM

Re: Toying with an idea (stern perch seats)
 
The idea of a leg for support is nice to take load off one the suspension and the rail. Give it a swing-away hinge on the top and a rubber cap on the bottom and you'd look really professional.

I want to get some when I have the extra money. I was on a new Hunter once and they were awesome to sit on, up high and with a good perspective.

tommays 04-18-2013 05:38 PM

Re: Toying with an idea (stern perch seats)
 
I think i know want you want as i would like some to

But my older boat also has a narrow stern and they seem to me more common on newer boats which carry the beam all the way aft and have 3 or 4 more feet to spare in that area as i go from 9 feet to less than 5 feet at the stern

jimgo 04-18-2013 10:13 PM

Re: Toying with an idea (stern perch seats)
 
Thanks for all the feedback! At this point, it's all conjecture. I need to actually get some time aboard and see whether I even need them, and then how I'd actually go about it. But the ideas are very helpful. Thanks again!


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