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Think I'll use Group9's latest post as my signature line.
So, what do you think about that moderators?
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Re: Politics and Moderation

I agree with the author of the following.

"It's an age old phrase that many people use - "You shouldn't talk about religion or politics." Why is that? The obvious answer is that they can cause conflict. But it doesn't have to be that way. Like most important topics, religion and politics are positions that are held tightly by many individuals who have strong convictions. That's okay. But that doesn't mean that we should ignore these potentially volatile topics all together. Because of their great importance, shouldn't that be more reason to discuss them lovingly and with great respect? Can't we speak passionately and lovingly and come out on opposite ends of an issue and still be friends?
Maybe people who say that you shouldn't talk about religion or politics are afraid of having their worldview examined. If your beliefs can't stand up to the scrutiny of others, are they really worth holding? If I've done my homework and I am confident in my beliefs, I'm not going to be offended at hearing an opposing perspective. We can ultimately disagree, but neither of us should be offended if we are confident in our position. I suspect that many people have not given a lot of thought about their position, and therefore they feel insecure when someone simply questions them. A thoughtful discussion is a great way to reason through what you believe, the problem is many people haven't thought through the issue because the discussions are not taking place. Instead we desire to be blissfully happy in our shallow conversations about trite topics such as the weather, sports, and celebrity gossip, because heaven forbid, we may disagree with someone. I don't think we should neglect the weightier issues of life and simply stick with lighthearted chit-chat only."


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I agree with the author of the following.

"It's an age old phrase that many people use - "You shouldn't talk about religion or politics." Why is that? The obvious answer is that they can cause conflict. But it doesn't have to be that way. Like most important topics, religion and politics are positions that are held tightly by many individuals who have strong convictions. That's okay. But that doesn't mean that we should ignore these potentially volatile topics all together. Because of their great importance, shouldn't that be more reason to discuss them lovingly and with great respect? Can't we speak passionately and lovingly and come out on opposite ends of an issue and still be friends?
Maybe people who say that you shouldn't talk about religion or politics are afraid of having their worldview examined. If your beliefs can't stand up to the scrutiny of others, are they really worth holding? If I've done my homework and I am confident in my beliefs, I'm not going to be offended at hearing an opposing perspective. We can ultimately disagree, but neither of us should be offended if we are confident in our position. I suspect that many people have not given a lot of thought about their position, and therefore they feel insecure when someone simply questions them. A thoughtful discussion is a great way to reason through what you believe, the problem is many people haven't thought through the issue because the discussions are not taking place. Instead we desire to be blissfully happy in our shallow conversations about trite topics such as the weather, sports, and celebrity gossip, because heaven forbid, we may disagree with someone. I don't think we should neglect the weightier issues of life and simply stick with lighthearted chit-chat only."


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No, I deleted it and my avatar myself. TDW is not a big fan of my posts so I was afraid he would blow me off the air!!

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I was not surprised when he said my post was "stupid" & "garbage". Generally, when someone dis-agrees with you they don't offer compliments.

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Re: Politics and Moderation

Speaking only for myself, I don't see a problem with requiring all avatars (and the text) and signature lines to be sailing related. It is a Sailing site first and foremost, and users should identify themselves in relation to sailing. (Granted, this could inflict some pain on CD's ego, but that's a small (very small) price to pay.

There are some humorous signature lines that aren't really sailing related, but do reflect a sense of the person's personality (rather than beliefs, etc.), and some discretion would be necessary. But all in all, I don't think it's an imposition on anyone to use the self-identification features in a sailing related way. After all, we all came here as sailors.

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Well I see all my esteemed friends are lining up on the other side of this

You guys make me laugh too because you display on this one topic the same attitudes and assumptions which can be prevalent in the OTH/REL/POL thread which you rail against. Its just that this time you think you cause is more just so its ok. Your intolerance of others in this instance who dare to have political opinions in your precious space will increase to topics which you don't want to talk about. In this case your intolerance is not even masked behind PC.

It isn't enough that these topics have been given there own special place, now the move afoot is to censor them out of the whole site.

It isn't enough that you can just ignore ad not go in these areas, you make broad assumptions and statements about spillover. So either you are going into these areas ( which clearly you are predisposed to upset you) or you make unfounded statements.

You are displaying the same intolerance you speak against.

You make assumptions and single out that SN only does the OTH/POL/REL thread for money. ( I got news for you the only reason they have any thread is for money). SN will ban any thread which will cause them to lose that ( Tartan for example). Doing things for money is not something new. We all do it. Some of you benefit monetarily from posting on this site by displaying your names and getting them known. No harm in that, but lets not castigate others for doing the same.

You want to call people names just like they do--- Lets call people who post there the sewer for instance. Now that's grown up and civil as you look down you nose at them as less thans.

You want to make unsubstantiated statements like there is spillover into the regular forums. Give me examples...specific ones. You are painting with a broad brush here. You paint everyone who posts in the other forum as lepers.

I see a lot of "assertions" but I see no proof to any spillover. Lots of conjecture and assumption.

So do you want to remove the topics next which are controversial such as anchors, sailing to Cuba, Active Captain, whose town is the sailing Capitol from these forums.
The Bounty thread was not in the POL/REL/?OTH forum but had many similar nasty personal posts

There already is a site where you can go where there is complete censorship-CF,

I know this next statement will not be popular, but just think about it

So if you think that the attitudes are out of control in the POL/OTH/REL forums point the finger in the correct direction. What is the main difference between there and other threads. Same posters many times in all threads. The difference is the way the rules are enforced by the MODS. By their own admission too. There is no need to get rid of the threads if you have these thoughts of spillover, just ask the MODS to be more consistent.
I really don't want to hear we don't have enough time. Get more MODS if that is the case.

I love the mods here. I appreciate what they do. I can extol them when they do well. But I will criticize them when they don't whether they are volunteers or not.

The MODS by allowing a double standard on the same site when it comes to civility have helped allow the attitudes in the OTH/POL/REL threads. I don't believe it spills over as I see no proof of that. You cant be inconsistent with your children or employees like this, so how do you think it works here.

I like SN and am passionate. I post a lot on here. I am not a marine professional so I have no benefits other than the friendships and knowledge I have either learned or helped with. I have opinions yes, strong ones sometimes. I can be a prickly poster if you treat me that way. I can be the opposite too if you treat me that way.

It is a sailing forum so you should have to post on the sailing part too ( most do BTW).

Just because it isn't something you want to do doesn't mean to get rid of it. Just don't go in. Don't ridicule the people who do. All are sailors...so you want to get rid of sailors...or just the ones who disagree with you?
Yea man, the intolerant shouting down the minority. THAT'S politics at its finest. Why ignore when you can destroy?
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