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Of the many harbors in Maine, I think about 2 or 3 of the Harbor Masters write tickets. The few problems are usually uneducated power boaters or commercial fishermen.
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In the Northport ,Centerport ,Huntington, Lloyd harbor area which in all reality is a pretty small area of perhaps 5 to 7 miles on the water

We have the most absurd marine police presence outside of a war zone

1.Eatons Neck CG station WHICH MAKES SENSE and one would think this could cover things pretty well

2.Northport harbor master/police/fireboat

3.Centerport harbor master/police

4.Ashroken harbor master/police It a different word for Eaton's neck

5. Lloyd Harbor harbor master/police

6. Huntington harbor harbor master/police

7. Suffolk county marine police which operate out of Huntington harbor

Now in terms of help and rescue the Suffolk county marine police have a fabulous record and the CG is pretty dam good

After that ever weekend inside a fairly small body of water all these departments patrol ALL the time

The only real action I see is the small speed trap at the tip of sand city

It never seems to control the excessive wakes by large powerboats inside the harbor were the speed limit is 40 MPH but common sense would call your wake excessive when you stuff the bow of my 29' boat

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Re: Informal, unscientific survey

The harbormaster sounds like a sensible, reasonable person who is trying to make things better. The police chief sounds like a pettifogging martinet. Keep the harbormaster, dump the police chief.
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Re: Informal, unscientific survey

From your description, I think your harbormaster is doing his job correctly.

I've never been stopped and I think that's probably true of most sailboaters.

The only people I know who have been stopped are operating small powerboats, too fast, throwing wakes and too close to other boats.

I haven't experienced a bad harbormaster anywhere so I cannot imagine not going some place because of a story like that.... If we avoid a harbor it's because it lacks what we need that particular night (fuel, water, groceries, or enough room to anchor/moor/tie up). That said, we did leave an anchorage on the 4th of July one year after a big clorox bottle mega yacht unloaded a pile of jet ski's and the charter/owner put their kids on them and let them play water world.


If your harbormaster is not ticketing the real bad actors that are causing damage with wakes, or danger to swimmers...stuff like that..that's one thing...but writing tickets should not be a measure of quality, the public safety and fair access for all...that's the goal.
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I agree with most here...

The "officials" that criticize the harbormaster need to think about the reason for a harbormaster. He is there for safety and not a revenue source.
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Re: Informal, unscientific survey

No Tickets.
Boarded a few times in Mexico and Australia.
Most officials seems most interested in safety and education.
Good source of local info as well.
Think your community has a jewel.
Give him a raise and tenure.
Local governments need more men like your harbor master.


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Re: Informal, unscientific survey

1. No. I 've been asked show the fish I'd caught a few times. My daughter has been asked for her Boater Education certificate. Checks for PFDs and flares each time. Perhaps every 5 years and never a problems.

2. None.

3. Avoid it if it was about excesive inspections; they're anoying. Not care if it was just about speed. I've never felt harbors were dangerous, not compared to city streets.

I can't say if the ticket rate is fair. Though I've seen stupid things out on the water, I can't say I've seen anything in the harbor my harbor that concerns me. My worst scares have come from sailors with deck sweepers that failed to keep a bow watch. I've seen a few inconsiderate power boaters, but not dangerous.

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1) no
2) Yes mostly safety related (overloaded, DUI, etc.)
3) Try to avoid.

It sounds like they are looking for a new revenue stream. If you were having a lot of issues with unsafe operation I could see it but it doesn't sound like that is the situation.
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1 - Never, but have been stopped for lifejacket check on one of the few days we weren't strictly legal (unexpected guests).. let of with warning by marine police.

2 - No one I know

3 - Would appreciate the oversight, esp speeding in restricted zones and creating unnecessary wash.

Should note we don't really have 'harbour masters', but have marine contingents of both city police and RCMP. Incidentally our Coast guard is one of the bigger offenders of making wash in restricted zones - not always with good reason.

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Re: Informal, unscientific survey

We do have a Harbour Commissioner here in Sidney but I believe he deals with land based issues and Government dock wharfage more than on the water issues.
We do have a voluteered base SAR, the RCMP and the CCG out on the water on most days.
I have been on and around boats for my entire life, 50+ years and I have found that the authorities are more reactive than proactive.
I know of no one personally who has been cited for anything including myself.

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