changing helm style - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > General Interest > General Discussion (sailing related)
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree16Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 05-03-2013
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
newfiedad is on a distinguished road
changing helm style

I am not sure if it is possible, or way too costly, but has anyone ever converted an Oday 25 from Tiller steering to a wheel helm?
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 05-03-2013
grumpy old man
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,650
Thanks: 1
Thanked 74 Times in 70 Posts
Rep Power: 4
bobperry will become famous soon enough
Re: changing helm style

Why would you even consider that?
killarney_sailor and rugosa like this.
__________________
Please visit my blog. It's fun to read.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Bob's Blog ....

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Please also visit my new web site
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 05-03-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,371
Thanks: 1
Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
Rep Power: 11
capttb is on a distinguished road
Re: changing helm style

Why would, oh, never mind.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 05-03-2013
Faster's Avatar
Just another Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Westminster, BC
Posts: 14,699
Thanks: 68
Thanked 197 Times in 189 Posts
Rep Power: 10
Faster has a spectacular aura about Faster has a spectacular aura about Faster has a spectacular aura about
Re: changing helm style

Really doesn't make much sense.. lots of weight added in the wrong place for a boat that size, pricey project too, and a lot of 'tiller intended' cockpits won't accommodate a wheel that's a decent size. Too small a wheel keeps the helmperson inboard with poor sightlines to jib telltales and waves when beating.
Brewgyver likes this.
__________________
Ron

1984 Fast/Nicholson 345 "FastForward"

".. there is much you could do at sea with common sense.. and very little you could do without it.."
Capt G E Ericson (from "The Cruel Sea" by Nicholas Monsarrat)
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 05-03-2013
krisscross's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: NC
Posts: 1,490
Thanks: 22
Thanked 81 Times in 81 Posts
Rep Power: 2
krisscross is on a distinguished road
Re: changing helm style

Just get a boat with a wheel if you like steering that way. In return, you will get a lot more complicated system and almost no feedback from the rudder when sailing. On a small boat like that wheel steering is an overkill. And if you want to 'pimp your boat' so to speak, there are other projects that would make a lot more sense from a practical point of view.
__________________
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.
Plato
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 05-03-2013
overbored's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Dana Point, Ca
Posts: 951
Thanks: 1
Thanked 35 Times in 35 Posts
Rep Power: 4
overbored is on a distinguished road
Re: changing helm style

Spend the money on a new set of sails and learn how to trim them and you will not need to pull so hard on the tiller. boat will almost sail it self.
jephotog likes this.
__________________
"FULL TILT" SOVEREL 33
"GOLD RUSH" PRINDLE 16
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 05-03-2013
Barquito's Avatar
Barquito
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 1,955
Thanks: 0
Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts
Rep Power: 7
Barquito is on a distinguished road
Re: changing helm style

I think the answer to your question is: Yes it is possible, and yes it is way too costly. And as you can see, most think it is not such a great idea. I agree is can be frustrating having a tiller sweeping through the cockpit when it is full of guests. However, at least at anchor you can tilt the thing up and out of the way, unlike with a steering pedestal.
__________________
Bristol 27
Cirque
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 05-03-2013
krisscross's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: NC
Posts: 1,490
Thanks: 22
Thanked 81 Times in 81 Posts
Rep Power: 2
krisscross is on a distinguished road
Re: changing helm style

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barquito View Post
I agree is can be frustrating having a tiller sweeping through the cockpit when it is full of guests.
Making a short tiller that you put on when you have a lot of guests is a very easy solution. True, you have to push a lot harder on the short tiller to steer and the sheets may be harder to reach, but it does solve your basic problem.
Barquito and wdwright1967 like this.
__________________
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.
Plato
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 05-03-2013
overbored's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Dana Point, Ca
Posts: 951
Thanks: 1
Thanked 35 Times in 35 Posts
Rep Power: 4
overbored is on a distinguished road
Re: changing helm style

the Oday 25 has an removable rudder mounted on the transom and the tiller pivots up behind the transom so at anchor it is not in the way of anyone. but connecting it to a wheel would be a very expensive project. it would cost more then buying another boat with a wheel.
__________________
"FULL TILT" SOVEREL 33
"GOLD RUSH" PRINDLE 16
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #10  
Old 05-06-2013
arknoah's Avatar
s/v Ilya
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Southern Maryland
Posts: 218
Thanks: 3
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 4
arknoah is on a distinguished road
Re: changing helm style

I agree with the general sentiment already expressed. I was kind of in your shoes after my ASA 101 and 103 courses a couple of years ago. The course was taught on a C&C 29 foot boat with wheel steering, and it was just so intuitive, that I thought it would be preferable to tiller steering. Well, it was very difficult to find a small boat, say 25 or so feet with wheel steering I just gave up. Once I got used to the tiller, which took all of about an hour, I've not felt the need to go to a wheel.

You may wish to search the Oday sailboat owners forum at OdayOwners.com - Home, since I am sure someone has made that modification at some time in the past and they can give you the pluses and minuses of the conversion.

Good luck!
__________________
Ilya's Adventures:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


____________________________
And straight on 'til morning
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Weather helm on starboard, lee helm on port donlofland Gear & Maintenance 3 01-17-2012 05:49 PM
Old style CDI furlers deniseO30 Gear & Maintenance 3 06-26-2010 07:39 PM
Weather Helm vs Lee Helm grantheadifen Learning to Sail 4 06-22-2009 05:23 PM
Changing Style of Chainplates puff6022 Gear & Maintenance 1 08-02-2007 10:47 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:28 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.