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Seems to me, LATITUDE 38 strikes the right note, here (bolded portion mine):

"As exciting as AC72s are to watch, in light of Simpson's death we, too, have to wonder if research and development of this new class of boats isn't still too much in the experimental phase to be ready for competition before a world-wide audience just 51 days from now."

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As I said before...this is exactly the problem...too much, too big, too soon. But I sure hope they don't abandon the cats or the format. They're on to something truly great.

(PS - I'm the bathtub sailor around here and don't you forget it!)
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Re: Another America’s Cup entry destroyed

Just to be difficult- I'm a hacker have nothing close to the smallest fraction of the skill set of a PGA golfer. They are playing a different game from me but I can appreciate what they do. Watch extreme games kids playing sports I never played and won't never be able to play at their level. Fun to watch but have trouble relating. See long distance sailboat racing as the first (consider those folks the pinnacle of racing sailors) and current AC as the second. just saying
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The paid crews are indeed the best but they are also being paid to drive someone else's boat for our amusement. Some disagree, but I say they have no choice but to accept these risks that shouldn't be imposed upon them. The engineerring of these boats is flawed. It doesnt require turning the clock back a century to fix. Further, they aren't in this conversation, I did not mock them and the use of chauffeur was metaphorical not hyperbole.

The bathtub comment was specifically directed at the "cautious sailors on here", so we'll respond to it. I'm good with that.


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Re: Another America’s Cup entry destroyed

FWIW, The Americas Cup Organisers just released a statement that the games will go on:

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Personally I'm on the fence on theses monsters, but looking forward to seeing them in 2 weeks while in SF.
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Re: Another America’s Cup entry destroyed

To say that someone doesn't have a choice has to be an incredibly inaccurate statement. We all have choices to make and we make them freely every day, regardless of our profession.

Every athlete paid to compete in a spectator sport is there for our amusement. Are you saying that is bad?
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To say that someone doesn't have a choice has to be an incredibly inaccurate statement. We all have choices to make and we make them freely every day, regardless of our profession.

Every athlete paid to compete in a spectator sport is there for our amusement. Are you saying that is bad?
Technically, they have a choice. Practically, how do they turn down being crew on an AC boat? The opportunity may never come again. Damn the torpedoes.

All other spectator sports have made incremental efforts to be safer year upon year. Nothing bad about amusing us, we only owe them better than the risk of the AC 72s in return.


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FWIW, The Americas Cup Organisers just released a statement that the games will go on:

America

Personally I'm on the fence on theses monsters, but looking forward to seeing them in 2 weeks while in SF.
But why be on the fence? Bad **** can happen when any boat gets upside down. There was a 14 yo girl killed last year in Annapolis when her 420(or Laser or whatever) turtled while racing or practicing to race. Nobody thinks racing 420's(or lasers or whatever) is too dangerous.

As has been noted previously these guys are at the top of the sport and know what they are getting into. Rather that presuming they are coerced into sailing on these boats by the lure of money and fame, I presume they LIKE the challenge of sailing faster than almost anything on the water and the money and fame are nice perks. In short, I don't think anyone involved feels they are being sent to the slaughter.

I read some of these posts and am reminded of Aesop's Fox and the grapes.
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You make a good point. However what if this wasn't for sport? What if this was a project to create a new breed of sailing craft and these men & women were pioneers. We would owe them nothing. Does that change because we call it a race and watch it on tv?
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As I said before...this is exactly the problem...too much, too big, too soon. But I sure hope they don't abandon the cats or the format. They're on to something truly great.

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You make a good point. However what if this wasn't for sport? What if was a project to create a new breed of sailing craft and these men & women were pioneers. We would owe them nothing. Does that change because we call it a race and watch it on tv?
Great point. I actually think this is Ellison's mission - to push this event to a completely new place. He is, without doubt, pioneering the AC. I say good on him.


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