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Re: Do dock lines go with the boat?

tell him to get off your boat. I doubt he will take the line and let the boat drift and if he is not there when you shove off. see ya
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Re: Do dock lines go with the boat?

The most common answer would be you keep them, unless specifically stated otherwise.

However, this just isn't worth messing with. I would tell the owner that you believed they were included, since they weren't specifically excluded, and move on if they balk.

You'll just end up with a good lesson and brand new dock lines. Not such a bad thing really.
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Re: Do dock lines go with the boat?

I think it's clear to any reasonable person that the docklines are part of the boat's equipment - even if they get left on the dock when you go sailing.

So it really depends on how far you want to pursue it.
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Re: Do dock lines go with the boat?

So, are you really willing to let less than $200 worth of dock lines sour the deal?
You just bought a boat for easily 100 times that price. You will be spending money hand over fist outfitting it with all kinds of stuff. A few dock lines will be a drop in the bucket.
Is it worth pissing off the PO over the dock lines? You may need to ask him questions further down the road.
Annoying perhaps, but not worth getting aggrivated over.
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Re: Do dock lines go with the boat?

I've bought and sold 3 boats. Several times they were too old to care and stayed on the pilings. Others they went with the boat. I can't imagine that either party ever cared, but the assumptions was always they were part of the boat, if they were worth untying?

Hint; they may be so old you don't really want them.
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Re: Do dock lines go with the boat?

Dock lines are a consumable/wear item, just like T.P. and fuel.

This cheapskate has probably had them in service for years. If they are at all weathered or chafed, they are not worth worrying about. If the turkey wants to keep this rope, just be sure to leave him at least enough to hang himself.

Get new ones and fergidaboutit!

Let him be someone else's problem.

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Re: Do dock lines go with the boat?

Those are YOUR dock lines.

Did you ever part with an item that was yours- because it was easier than keeping it? Someone's kid really liked the fill in the blank they saw on your boat- or in your house, on your keychain- and you just let them keep it...

Sadly in the case of a child doing so usually brings a smile to both parties- but sometimes- everyone in a while- for no apparent reason- that brat will shriek and shriek and it easier to just give them the keyless entry fobfor your door locks and go back to using the key.


For my part I'm surprised you were able to conclude the deal- I just bought and sold again a little while ago- and it was really easy to tell from the responses I got to my adds whether or not I wanted to even try to deal with the person in question. same with boats I wanted to check out- best boat in the world is useless to me if I'm not going to be able to deal with the owner to get it.

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Re: Do dock lines go with the boat?

It sounds like this deal was difficult for other reasons, so the PO may be twisted already.
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Re: Do dock lines go with the boat?

Unless they are provided by the marina they are boat's equipment, and if not specifically listed are included in the sale.
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Re: Do dock lines go with the boat?

Whatever the reasons behind the difficult deal- it's always easier to say(and somewhat enjoyable when delivered in the proper tone) "you know what, it's clear that these dock lines are significantly more important to you- than they are to me"

Than it is to say (and this is coming from someone who doesn't typically lose) "you know what-you want em- try to take them"

If I was your dock neighbor I'd be digging in my cockpit locker for a few extras for you. Life is too short. Especially for sailors apparently...
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