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My new to me Offshore 33 Cat ketch was originally equipped with a propane stove and has two propane lockers that can store a 10# cylinder located aft. The PO converted to an alcohol stove which scares the heck out of me.
I have heard that propane can be difficult to source in the Caribbean which is where I intend to cruise.

Is there a difference between LPG and propane or are they the same, and how available is propane in the Caribbean?
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Re: Stove food

katsailor -
LPG is liquid propane gas- same thing.
Never had any problems getting propane- except for the french islands..
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Re: Stove food

Why would you be scared of an alcohol stove?
I guess it should be the other way around..
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Re: Stove food

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My new to me Offshore 33 Cat ketch was originally equipped with a propane stove and has two propane lockers that can store a 10# cylinder located aft. The PO converted to an alcohol stove which scares the heck out of me.
I have heard that propane can be difficult to source in the Caribbean which is where I intend to cruise.

Is there a difference between LPG and propane or are they the same, and how available is propane in the Caribbean?
Is the alcohol stove pressurized or non-pressurized? If it's the latter, it's far safer than propane/LPG. If it's the former, replace it with a non-pressrized alcohol stove; the cost of the stove seems high, until you factor in all the associated tanks/tubes/hoses/valves/solenoids/sniffers/et cetera that you'll need to install with a propane stove.
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Why would you be scared of an alcohol stove?
I guess it should be the other way around..
Why would an alcohol stove be scared of katsailor?
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Re: Stove food

Something about not being able to see alcohol flames, working around alky burning funny cars at the strip in my younger days left me a little paranoid.

The boat originally had a gas stove and oven. The solenoid shut off and lines are still there, I just need to locate and install another stove/oven unit.

Does an alcohol fueled stove/oven cook as well as a propane fueled model? Are they as fussy as the Coleman camp stove I fought with in my boy scout days? The BTU output for a propane fueled stove is greater than an alcohol fueled stove so I thing the propane would have decreased cooking times.

The admiral is a Cordon Blue trained chef and kind of particular about the galley.
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Why would an alcohol stove be scared of katsailor?

But anyway, he seems to be ready to put the poor stove on the scrap heap, so a little fear is perhaps in order
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Re: Stove food

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Something about not being able to see alcohol flames, working around alky burning funny cars at the strip in my younger days left me a little paranoid.

The boat originally had a gas stove and oven. The solenoid shut off and lines are still there, I just need to locate and install another stove/oven unit.

Does an alcohol fueled stove/oven cook as well as a propane fueled model? Are they as fussy as the coleman camp stove I fought with in my boy scout days? The admiral is a Cordon Blue trained chef and kind of particular about the galley.
Surf around SN a little. The relative merits of different stoves have been debated ad nauseam. The bottom line is that propane is slightly more convenient, but non-pressured alcohol stoves are much safer.
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Re: Stove food

I find butane is working very well for me and it lasts a while.

I don't know why but alot of people have told me off alcohol stoves.
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Re: Stove food

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Why would you be scared of an alcohol stove?
I guess it should be the other way around..
If you would like to see what an open alcohol flame looks like, put a quarter to a half teaspoon or so of denatured alcohol, ever clear or even 151 in a frying pan and touch it off in the galley. Most of the time you will have no trouble seeing the flames if you are inside. Make certain that there are no curtains or other flammables hanging over the pan when you do this.

If you use denatured alcohol, wash the measuring spoon and pan thoroughly afterwards. They put nasty tasting, toxic stuff in denatured to make it unfit to drink. If you test using 151 or ever clear, no problem!

The problem with gasoline, propane and butane is they are heavier than air and tend to collect in low places. Your flammables tester may show OK in the cabin but under the floor, in the bilge, you may have an explosive mixture. One spark there and you're done!
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