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Re: Bicycling as sailing

There's a beach road near me that we like to ride in the summer. When the prevailing SW wind gets going 20+ kts, it's straight down wind. Get going fast enough, and the apparent goes go zero. Effortless, makes you feel like you could do the tour
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We have a prevailing SSE wind that in the afternoon is easily 20+ mph. Years ago when the "Tour of Texas" was going on I got to watch the 7-11 team time trial the twenty miles from the airstation to downtown. I think terminal speed on a bike is around 65 mph and I'll bet they were doing all of that on that day. In the follow car it was fast!
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tommays, is that your triple? Must be fast with all that horsepower.
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Good luck in the race.

We are out sailing this weekend but I will be mountain biking with the dog Sunday afternoon. Riding in the woods usually is not affected too much by the wind.

I often ride at lunch time on week days and part of my route is on a gravel path along the waterfront. I ride it both ways so I have to fight the wind one way but get the benefit the other. Friday we had 20kt winds and riding into that on a full suspension bike with knobby tires was a b!tch.

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tommays, is that your triple? Must be fast with all that horsepower.

100 pound triple and your 6 and 8 year old is painful FUN

It was something i built because one of them always had to stay home



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Re: Bicycling as sailing

It was a great ride, I improved my time to 9:15 which I think puts me about in the middle of the pack. For a middle-aged guy carrying 15 extra pounds, I count middle of the pack as a win.

Anyway, I did witness a lesson that applies to sailing. Most of the breakdowns I saw, flat tires, broken pedals, jammed chains, etc., happened in the first ten miles. Not after fifty or eighty miles of abuse on loose gravel, dust, mud, potholes, washboard, and general heck. Most of the breakdowns happened right away.

This tells me that a lot of people put new stuff on their bike and never did a proper shakedown. Maybe the night before they put on a new chain, or "fixed" their brakes, or put on a new tire but pinched the tube. And then they set out the next morning on this grueling ride with untested equipment.

Even the water bottles. The ride is unsupported, there's only one place to get water, so you have to carry a lot. The first ten miles I bet I saw fifty water bottles lying in the road. This tells me that the night before a lot of people added new water bottle mounts but never tested them to see if the bottle would actually stay in the cage.

Lesson learned! Test your equipment BEFORE the big day!
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I have on occasion "tacked" up a steep slope if it was wide enough.

But yeah. Ordinary people don't pay much attention to the wind. Sailors and cyclists really do.

Also aviators, but for them those "jib telltales" are really important. If we sailors screw up the flow and stall it, the water still holds us up. Unlike the air for them, which, uh, doesn't..
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I commute to work by bike and usually do about 150 kms per week. 2/3 rds of my trip is along Lake Ontario, so I get some pretty good winds (although more predicatable than downtown Toronto!). Given our prevailing north westerlies, I just need to figure out how to bike closehauled more efficiently!

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I commute to work by bike and usually do about 150 kms per week. 2/3 rds of my trip is along Lake Ontario, so I get some pretty good winds (although more predicatable than downtown Toronto!). Given our prevailing north westerlies, I just need to figure out how to bike closehauled more efficiently!

I am not really from Toronto


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