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Re: I can't heave to

I wouldn't expect to be able to let go of the tiller when heaving to. You will probably have to lash the tiller to leeward (so the boat is trying to head up). The mechanism is: backwinded jib tries to force the bow down, tiller tries to head the boat up. From there it's a matter of finding the balance point. Adjust the main until you find it.
I second those who recommend a tillerpilot. If that's not in your future, get a tiller tamer, or make one on your own- it's a simple device.
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Re: I can't heave to

Heaving-to in the sort of light air you're describing can be a challenge, even in boats that have a tendency to heave-to easily... you really do need some breeze to create the proper balance of forces...

One should never, EVER, attempt pee over the rail aboard a small boat while underway... Get yourself something like a simple paint cup, attach a lanyard to enable you to rinse it over the side after use...


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Re: I can't heave to

A friend ties a line between two deck mounted cleats (they are the aft docking cleats), one port and one starboard, with a loose clove hitch around the tiller. It acts just like a tiller tamer, but it gets out of the way when you don't want it.

I also had more trouble heaving to in fin keel boats. Another friend finally showed me how to better do it. Sheet in the jib hard, backwind it, then let out the main until it just starts to luff. I was sheeting in the main too hard and it would overpower the jib and tack the boat back.

I've also done it with main only, depowered and the tiller turned hard to keep the bow against the wind.

A tiller pilot is also a handy thing...
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Re: I can't heave to

Never saw a boat that wouldn't heave-to. Lots of folks just don't know how to do, though. As posted above, get yourself a Tiller Tamer. And also posted above - Never, ever pee over the side. You can purchase a simple, hospital urinal and a snap cap for a couple bucks in any drugstore. This ain't rocket science.

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Re: I can't heave to

I'm sorry, but pissing off the stern rail with one hand holding the backstay and the other my c*&k while the autopilot does its thing is one of the finer pleasures of single handed sailing.
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Re: I can't heave to

I use a rope tied across the cockpit that loosely loops around the tiller when I'm steering. If I have to 'lock' the tiller in position, I move the rope loop forward as far as it will go, which makes both sides of the rope taut. It does not get simpler than that. It works even in my dinghy that has a very temperamental steering. In the dinghy, I pee into my bailing scoop. I do not pee in my cockpit in my Mirage - that is low class, and stinky. I use a small bucket and rinse it right away.

As to the hove to problem: if the wind changes a lot and you have a current, hove to in a small boat can be tricky.
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Re: I can't heave to

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I'm sorry, but pissing off the stern rail with one hand holding the backstay and the other my c*&k while the autopilot does its thing is one of the finer pleasures of single handed sailing.
Wait till you get old and make the same statement. It's amazing how the aging process effects this function, especially when you realize that you'll soon be peeing on your shoes.

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Re: I can't heave to

Gatorade bottle. I am prettty sure they designed the wide mouth bottle just for that purpose.
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Re: I can't heave to

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Wait till you get old and make the same statement. It's amazing how the aging process effects this function, especially when you realize that you'll soon be peeing on your shoes.

Cheers,

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Yes, when you are old you need to hold on to everything with both hands, so you have to pick whether you are going to hold on to the stay, or to your wiener. In either case it is going to be a disaster.
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Re: I can't heave to

I do think its a case I the job overpowering the main and me not having things properly balanced.

Tiller tamer is a good idea and so is an autopilot but I still need to be able to heave to. I need some wind to practice in. At first when this boat wasn't actjng like my thers I thought I was in a funny current but it can't be a funny current all the time.
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