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GoodOldBoat 04-16-2007 08:52 AM

Safer Sleeping (and your Cruising Wardrobe)
 
<html><table border="0" valign=top> <tr> <td align="left" valign="top">When faced with the task of choosing our <A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35">cruising wardrobe</A>, Larry and I walked into our once coveted walk-in closet and immediately knew that we were in big trouble. Just how many clothes can two people own? We made a pile of the items we wanted to take with us; then, realizing we would have to buy a bigger boat, we regrouped and started the sorting-out process all over again. <p>Now, after being on the boat for several years, how did we do with that initial choosing of our wardrobe? Well, even though at that time we thought we were scaling down, with <I>great</I> sacrifice, to the bare minimum, in the end we still took way too much stuff. </td> <td><IMG height=153 src="http://www.sailnet.com/images/content/authors/sue_larry/051300sl_couple.jpg" width=232><BR> <DIV align=left><FONT color=#910762 size=-1><B>The authors at home with some of their essential gear for life aboard—hats and sunglasses. </B></FONT></DIV></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"> <P>Welcome to the world where the donning of shoes is often considered dressing-up and the term <I>clean shirt</I> takes on a whole new meaning. From our experience through trial and error, maybe we can help you to decide what to keep, what to throw away, and what you'll need to buy to be a happy, safe, and comfortable cruiser.</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" valign="top">On the boat, you've got a whole different set of priorities to guide you in choosing your wardrobe. Fashion has to play second fiddle to protection from the elements, and storage space dictates how much you can take with you. As sailors, we virtually live outdoors, so we must be very conscious of protecting ourselves from the effects of the sun, climatic changes, ever-present wind, and drenchings from spray and rainfall. A good bimini and dodger help, but they can't take care of you all those times when you're not in the cockpit. </td> <td><IMG height=163 src="http://www.sailnet.com/images/content/authors/sue_larry/051300sl_hallbert.jpg" width=222><BR><DIV align=left><FONT color=#910762 size=-1><B>When you take your home on the road, fashion becomes a low priority.</B></FONT></DIV></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2">In the warmer climes, the sun makes each day pleasant and warm; but, if you believe the medical studies regarding skin cancer, it must be respected for the damage it can do. We wear sunblock every day. We also try to wear wide-brimmed hats, instead of the cooler-looking sailor's caps that we like, but which offer very little shade protection to your face, neck, and ears. The inclusion of a couple of lightweight, loose-fitting cotton long-sleeved shirts and pants is also important for days when added protection over the usual T-shirts and shorts is needed. Today, there are even special SPF protection shirts and pants available that also dry more quickly than cotton. Sunglasses are another extremely important part of your everyday wear. Because water tends to make the sun's glare even worse than it is on shore, the eyes could be damaged by too much exposure, and navigational aids may be missed if you're squinting too badly. <P>When sailing in more northern waters, you'll be greatly affected by the cooler temperatures and will not enjoy the experience unless you have sufficient <A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35">cold-weather clothing</A> aboard. The invention of <A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35">polar fleece</A><A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35"> </A>has been a godsend for the cruising sailor. Not only is it warm, it's lightweight, scrunches up into the tiniest balls for efficient storage, never wrinkles, and still provides warmth even if it gets wet. Larry and I both have <A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35">fleece hats, scarves, gloves, jackets, vests, pants</A>, and even socks. Basically, some days we can look like big, fuzzy characters out of Sesame Street, but we're warm. (A storage tip for smaller boats is to use the fleece clothing as stuffing in pillow cases for your main salon throw pillows.) Combine the fleece with a wind-breaking <A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35">foul-weather jacket</A>, and you've got easy, free-moving comfort and warmth.</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" valign="top">Wind is an often overlooked element when choosing your daily wardrobe. We've all heard of windchill factor, right? Although it's usually associated with cold, snowy places, that's far from the truth. Many times we have been offshore in warm, southern places like Florida or the Bahamas, wearing full fleece and windbreakers. Feeling cold greatly contributes to fatigue and makes you much less alert. It's important to take the necessary steps to preserve body heat so that your mind and body remain sharp when on watch. I also always add a scarf around my neck at the first signs of a drop in temperature.</td> <td><IMG height=150 src="http://www.sailnet.com/images/content/authors/sue_larry/051300sl_cruisin.jpg" width=222><BR><DIV align=left><FONT color=#910762 size=-1><B>Bundling up for cold-weather sailing makes for a happier and more productive crew.</B></FONT></DIV></td> </tr> <tr><td colspan="2">Wind is an often overlooked element when choosing your daily wardrobe. We've all heard of windchill factor, right? Although it's usually associated with cold, snowy places, that's far from the truth. Many times we have been offshore in warm, southern places like Florida or the Bahamas, wearing full fleece and windbreakers. Feeling cold greatly contributes to fatigue and makes you much less alert. It's important to take the necessary steps to preserve body heat so that your mind and body remain sharp when on watch. I also always add a scarf around my neck at the first signs of a drop in temperature. <P>Nothing makes you more miserable when sailing than being wet—especially wet with salt water. Buy the best <A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35">foul-weather</A> gear you can afford. We both have good, heavy, <A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35">offshore-type jackets </A>and pants. These are essential for anyone who is planning any offshore sailing adventures. Good foul-weather gear not only provides the needed protection from the water, but when coupled with layers of fleece is great for any cold weather or windy conditions. Even in the warmer cruising areas, you'll often find yourself wearing foul-weather gear offshore at night. I also have a lighter-weight rain jacket that is mid-calf length and converts to hip-length. Although it's not waterproof in bad conditions, it's great for cutting the windchill and for keeping me dry in light rain or spray conditions. Rubber boots top off our wardrobe in the worst rain or sea conditions. <P>I mentioned the donning of shoes<A href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35"></A> can be considered dressing up. I'm serious here. Many cruisers simply give up the practice of wearing shoes on the boat. The downside of this is that when you have to wear shoes again, your feet don't know what's happening to them. A cruising friend of ours moved back ashore a year ago and had to start wearing suits and ties again in New York City. His feet hurt him so much that he finally had to step on the back of his $200, leather dress shoes and wear them like slippers. Don't think his land-based working buddies didn't get a kick out of that! </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="top">As a cruiser, you will want to have at least one pair of good <A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35">non-skid shoes</A><A href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35"> </A>for rougher sailing conditions. You'll also want a good pair of walking shoes (with socks) to take full advantage of seeing the great new sights of your cruising destinations. The relatively new boating-sole running shoes work well for both of the above purposes. Sandals that you can wear in the water to protect your feet and not have to worry about getting wet in the dinghy or wading through shallow waters are also a must. Luckily, there are multitudes of new water sports shoes on the market these days. As for carrying dress shoes on the boat, if you're like us, they will get good and moldy (if they're leather), and you won't find much use for them.</td><td><IMG height=164 src="http://www.sailnet.com/images/content/authors/sue_larry/051300sl_kids.jpg" width=222><BR><DIV align=left><FONT color=#910762 size=-1><B>Kids especially need to have the proper, water-repellant gear for blustery conditions offshore.</B></FONT></DIV></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"><P>Speaking of dress clothes, before leaving I insisted that we both include a blazer in our wardrobes for whatever occasion came up. Coming from a yacht-club background, I was sure we would need those. Well, after a year, nothing had yet come up. One day, we happened to be sitting at anchor in Camden, ME , the same week that the New York Yacht Club was having its annual summer cruise. All around us, large, beautiful yachts arrived. One even had a helicopter on it. As the cocktail hour approached, we noticed an extraordinary number of blue blazers making an appearance on deck. People were ferrying around from boat to boat making the party scene. Although we weren't included (and didn't expect to be) in any of the high-profile parties going on, Larry ran below and grabbed our blazers out of the hanging locker. We immediately put them on (with our ratty shorts and no shoes), sat in the cockpit with drinks and hors d'oeurvres, and didn't feel left out one bit. This—I have to admit—is the only time we have worn those blazers in our cruising so far.<br><br></td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="top">The interesting thing is that what we used to consider our weekend sports clothes are now what I would call our dress clothes. It's a very simple fashion world out here. When T-shirts and shorts are not in order, a nice button-down shirt and khakis seem to get Larry through anything. And, what I would have considered a very casual cotton dress before, now makes me feel like I'm dressing up for the prom. It's simply a shift in perception of what you see around you all the time. <p>Basically, if you plan to cruise the way we have been, you'll have very little use for fancy dress clothes. In fact, jewelry, accessories, and makeup pretty much all fall by the wayside for most women. My hair dryer, although not used a single time to dry my hair, has been very useful for a variety of boat-related jobs. </td><td><IMG height=170 src="http://www.sailnet.com/images/content/authors/sue_larry/051300sl_legs.jpg" width=222><BR><DIV align=left><FONT color=#910762 size=-1><B>Sturdy boat shoes and sandals are a must for the authors' adventures whether underway or on shore. </B></FONT></DIV></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"><P><P>When it comes to storing clothes on board, you may need to take some special precautions. The boat is a very humid environment, and things can mold or get stale quickly, or heaven-forbid, get wet from some new leak that lets water trickle into your cabinet. We store all of our clothes in plastic freezer bags to help keep them fresher. The two-gallon size is very useful. By rolling each item before putting it in the bag, it takes up the least space possible and stays remarkably wrinkle-free. (OK, your standards of what's wrinkled do change a little too.) Hanging-locker space is highly overrated in the buying-a-cruising-boat stage. We hang only a half dozen items, yet knowing we could easily get by without hanging them. However, a separate wet locker for your foul-weather gear, is a wonderful item. Many cruisers convert their hanging locker space into shelves that are able to accommodate a lot more items usefully. <P>Because laundry is by no means as simple as when you had that big washer and dryer back home, you soon learn that a t-shirt doesn't casually get tossed in the laundry basket after one day's wearing. Quite frankly, there will be times when you're amazed at how many days in a row you've worn one item. Most of us tend to save our clean, fresh clothes for our trips ashore or visits to new friends' boats. <P>After you've been on the boat a few years, check out a fashion magazine, and you'll think you're looking at people from another planet. Basically, we've discovered that we need a whole lot less clothing on board to be comfortable cruising than we initially thought and are more than happy if we can simply achieve somewhat of an Ernest Hemingway look—adventurous, slightly scruffy, but with an air of confidence. Comfortable, loose fitting clothing tends to be what gets grabbed first when getting dressed in the morning. Rugged, good quality clothes, designed to protect you from the elements will serve you well for many years on the cruise. The best advice we can offer you is that after you determine how many clothes you think you need to bring, halve that amount, and you'll probably find you still have too much. </td></tr> </table> <TABLE cellPadding=5 width=468 bgColor=#c4d7fc border=1><TBODY><TR><TD><A name=sidebar><P align=left><FONT face="Trebuchet MS, arial" color=#910762 size=+2><B>Basic Minimum Wardrobe Essentials</B><BR><FONT size=-1>(These clothing recommendations will take you from the Canadian border in the fall, to the Caribbean for the winter.) </FONT></FONT></P></A><!--<p> follows above for first line of sidebar article--><P><TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=10>&nbsp;</TD><TD vAlign=baseline width=13><IMG hspace=4 src="http://www.sailnet.com/images/content/authors/Bullets/outfitting_bullet.gif"></TD><TD><B>Warm-Weather Clothing</B></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><P><TABLE cellSpacing=1 borderColorDark=#910762 cellPadding=2 width=400 align=center borderColorLight=#c4d7fc border=2><TBODY><TR align=middle bgColor=#910762><TD width=134><FONT color=#ffffff><B><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=3>Item</FONT></B></FONT></TD><TD width=247><FONT color=#ffffff><B><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=3>Quantity</FONT></B></FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD width=134><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=349">T-shirts / tank tops</A></FONT></FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=247><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>8</FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#c4d7fc><TD width=134><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=1199">Shorts</A></FONT></FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=247><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>4</FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD width=134><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>Bathing suits</FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=247><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>2</FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#c4d7fc><TD width=134><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35">Long-sleeved shirts</A></FONT></FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=247><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>2</FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD width=134><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35">Long pants</A></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=247><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>2</FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#c4d7fc><TD width=134><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35">Hats</A></FONT></FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=247><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>2 (1 wide brim, 1 sporty)</FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD width=134><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35">Sunglasses</A></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=247><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>2</FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#c4d7fc><TD width=134><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>Socks</FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=247><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>3</FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD width=134><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>Dresses/skirts</FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=247><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>4 (for the ladies, optional for the men)</FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#c4d7fc><TD width=134><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35">Collared short-sleeved shirts</A></FONT></FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=247><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>3</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><P><TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=10>&nbsp;</TD><TD vAlign=baseline width=13><IMG hspace=4 src="http://www.sailnet.com/images/content/authors/Bullets/outfitting_bullet.gif"></TD><TD><B>Cold-Weather Clothing</B></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><P><TABLE cellSpacing=1 borderColorDark=#910762 cellPadding=2 width=400 align=center borderColorLight=#c4d7fc border=2><TBODY><TR align=middle bgColor=#910762><TD width=190><FONT color=#ffffff><B><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=3>Item</FONT></B></FONT></TD><TD width=191><FONT color=#ffffff><B><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=3>Quantity</FONT></B></FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD width=190><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>Turtlenecks</FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=191><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>2</FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#c4d7fc><TD width=190><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>Wool sweater</FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=191><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>1</FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD width=190><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35">Polar fleece jacket</A></FONT></FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=191>1</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#c4d7fc><TD width=190><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35">Polar fleece vest</A></FONT></FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=191><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>1</FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD width=190><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35">Polar fleece pants</A></FONT></FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=191><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>1</FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#c4d7fc><TD width=190><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>Polar fleece scarf</FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=191><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>1</FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD width=190><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>Polar fleece hat</FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=191><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>1</FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#c4d7fc><TD width=190><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35">Polar fleece gloves</A></FONT></FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=191><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>1</FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD width=190><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>Sweat pants</FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=191><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>1</FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#c4d7fc><TD width=190 height=17><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>Sweat shirt</FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=191 height=17><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>1</FONT></TD></TR><TR align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD colSpan=2 height=17><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>(Combine above with foul-weather gear for added warmth.)</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><P><TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=10></TD><TD vAlign=baseline width=13><IMG hspace=4 src="http://www.sailnet.com/images/content/authors/Bullets/outfitting_bullet.gif"></TD><TD><B>Rain/Storm Protection</B></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><P><TABLE cellSpacing=1 borderColorDark=#910762 cellPadding=2 width=400 align=center borderColorLight=#c4d7fc border=2><TBODY><TR align=middle bgColor=#910762><TD width=329><FONT color=#ffffff><B><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=3>Item</FONT></B></FONT></TD><TD width=52><FONT color=#ffffff><B><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=3>Quantity</FONT></B></FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD width=329><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><A class=article_link href="http://www.sailnet.com/store/departments.cfm?id=35">Waterproof jacket with hood and reflective tape </A></FONT></FONT></TD><TD align=middle width=52><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>1</FONT></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#c4d7fc><TD 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RickBowman 04-16-2007 06:28 PM

Padding under Foredeck?
 
I never was able to sleep with my head under the foredeck on my 25 foot Seaward. How is my mate and I suppose to sleep shoulder to shoulder in such a narrow space? We always had to sleep with our feet towards the bow. No problem with hitting our heads. A little cushion attached to the underside of the foredeck would help with the gray matter splatter?

craigjohnston 05-09-2007 04:32 PM

Ne legs needed for filler.
 
On one of our previous boats, we had a similar problem with a small v-verth which we solved by making a main cabin berth, filling in between the two fore-and-aft settees. For that installation, I made some beams out of 1x6 fir that spanned the gap, with a sheet of plywood that laid on top of them. Simple u-shaped wooden brackets fastened to the edges of the settees provide a support into which the beams could be dropped. Since every part of this system was flat when disassembled, stowage was perhaps easier than using the tables with legs as described in the article.

jheldatksuedu 05-09-2007 05:50 PM

re: safer sleeping, crosswise double bed.
 
It looks like a great idea.

It seems like the two table tops you made could have been just hinged at the edge of the settees, then to fold it up all you do is remove some type of center brace and they drop down flat against the settee. One less heavy thing that might be loose and flying around the cabin in a storm. On a sailboat we always need to consider loose items, big heavy ones can cause a huge problem.

I'm in the process of preparing for a circumnavigation, any ideas like this are good to share. Jon

wyejay 08-10-2007 09:31 PM

athwartship double berth
 
I once did one of these in a Catalina 22. Instead of building a center structure with legs, I simply screwed a set of long 3/4" cleats to the lower vertical face of the settees. Then I cut a piece of half-inch plywood to rest on the cleats.

The stock cushions rearranged nicely to form a sleeping surface with the irregularities smoothed by a standard fabric mattress pad.

greybeard54 10-15-2007 08:25 PM

That looks really comfortable and inviting and such easy access to the cockpit. Nice job!

svbeausoleil 10-26-2007 04:52 PM

double bed in a Columbia 24
 
Great Thread!

We circumnavigated in 'Tola' our 'weekender' Columbia 24. I found that if I filled in the fore peak area where the portapotty originally went, I could stretch out my 6' 2" body. Forward I built lockers on either side leaving a space amidships to crawl forward to the chain locker. That left just enough room for me and my petite wife to sleep athwartships. Granted we slept close together, but hey, we were in love! Learn more about the boat at:

education.of.a.falcon.googlepages.com

In fact, for a small donation to Falcon's college fund, you get the whole 180 page book! I'm talking shark attack, whale ramming, pirates, abandoned islands, and every word true. Check it out. First three chapters free, plus you help out the world by sending one of our own to his last few years of college!

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svbeatrix 02-26-2008 11:01 AM

Good article. Thanks

svbeatrix 02-26-2008 11:02 AM

As I head south, clothes become less important.

Bene505 11-05-2008 11:37 AM

How to order Education Falcon book
 
I read your sample chapters. Excellent!

How do I order the physical book? (There was no link to that option.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by svbeausoleil (Post 212671)
Great Thread!

We circumnavigated in 'Tola' our 'weekender' Columbia 24. I found that if I filled in the fore peak area where the portapotty originally went, I could stretch out my 6' 2" body. Forward I built lockers on either side leaving a space amidships to crawl forward to the chain locker. That left just enough room for me and my petite wife to sleep athwartships. Granted we slept close together, but hey, we were in love! Learn more about the boat at:

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