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Offense is in the eye of the beholder?
Honi soit qui mal y pense

"Translation: It may be understood as 'A scoundrel, who thinks badly by it', or 'Shame on him, who suspects illicit motivation'.
Another alternative translation: "Spurned be the one who evil thinks".

This statement supposedly originated when King Edward III was dancing with his first cousin and daughter-in-law, Joan of Kent. Her garter slipped down to her ankle, causing those around her to snigger at her humiliation. In an act of chivalry Edward placed the garter around his own leg, saying "Honi soit qui mal y pense"

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You mean, people should be offended by a human body that is not ostensibly naked, just naked and getting some solar radiation, on a boat on anchor, or sailing, where you only get close if you want to and not need to?

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Irrelevant whether they should be. They either are or are not.

Civility requires one to choose the least offensive to the most. If one can't be seen, it isn't an issue at all. It takes two to be civil.


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Irrelevant whether they should be. They either are or are not.

Civility requires one to choose the least offensive to the most. If one can't be seen, it isn't an issue at all. It takes two to be civil.

I don't agree, it is completely different to be naked in a place where people has to pass, or to be naked on a boat sailing or anchored in a remote place where you have to go to see someone naked, or perhaps using some binoculars from land. People can be seen if you want really try hard.

On what regards the last case I don't see where is the incivility to be naked.

I remember my father telling me that the only time he was arrested was because he was naked, I mean not all but with the chest naked. That should have been on the 40's where men still had to use complete bath suit. He was part of a racing crew of 8 rowing a shell at the middle of a big river (tejo) and it was so hot they all have taken the bath suit from the chest. A civil lady saw that (at distance) and complain to the police given them no alternative than to take them all in custody. They were fined and then released.

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I'm glad the police never went after us kids all bathing in the creek when I was young. Kids of all ages and sexes. Adults too most of the time. Noone in our area had running water so it was accepted. Now everyone does and it's illegal in that state to be naked anywhere. Even in your own house if other family members are present. It's a messed up world.
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Pre-GPS, the charter boat companies in the Virgins had numerous anchorages they declared offlimits for the boats they rented, too hard for those without local knowledge to get into. We'd go to exactly those places and spend a week or two naked night and day - it's amazing how quickly skin dries in the sun, and how nice it is not to spend your time in a clammy wet bathing suit. We'd wear clothing if we were coming into a more populated anchorage, then anchor off toward the edge, and strip down again. Not flaunting it, but not cowering either. I don't understand the way that could be construed as offensive.
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I don't understand the way that could be construed as offensive.
You have never seen me naked.
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I hear that a lot. It doesn't matter. Not at all! People that are into this aren't doing it to look at others. It doesn't matter to me if you are white brown polka dotted or missing your toes.
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We hot tub nekked in the winter! No sailing to be done up here this time of year...

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I wish I had one. Our new boat WAS my hot tub fund. Maybe next year. It kinda made me mad when the guy I bought it from went out and bought the exact same tub I was looking at with the cash I gave him too and I never said a word about it.
Thinking about hooking up our horse trough to a recirc line from the water heater now to hold us over.
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