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post #91 of 97 Old 09-10-2010
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Denise—

Everyone knows women can't sail a boat by themselves... Look at Ellen McArthur, Donna Lange, Jessica Watson, Dee Caffari, Maude Fontenoy... failures, all of them...

Hmm... maybe those women would not be the best examples for me to pick.

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I'd point out that SailingDog did not use the Subjunctive form of any verb in his past post. I think that requires a salute to all wimyn, women everywhere.
Things are changing a bit in the Navy and MSC and women are officers in command and are not to be dealt with lightly because of preconceived notions.
I am always a secondary person on board when the owner of a boat takes command. I don't have to like their decisions but it matters less to me whether they are male or female.
As SD noted there are plenty of female skippers who know their stuff and why kick up a bunch of dust over such stupid stuff.

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Dhays may be in fact correct. I certainly don't know the details myself but wouldn't her experience be known to the other brokers? Is it possible that she is feeling like a victim of sexism?
Many times the selling brokers don't know her sailing resume. I actually suggested that when she is submitting offers, she also submit a short sailing resume of herself so the broker will know of her experience and qualifications. She may consider doing that.

She is a woman my own age (52), and when I suggested that maybe the other brokers coming along has nothing to do with their lack of trust in her seamanship but maybe more in the desire of her company, she didn't give that argument much credence.

She is also not one prone to radical feminism. She is just getting mildly annoyed at this consistent pattern.

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I would just suggest she assert her rights loud an clear. There is nothing radical or non-ladylike about demanding what one is due in business. If brokers are anything like other business people, they don't look to share and or include another, unless it's demanded or well explained up front. Is this also situation also affecting her income?

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Denise, if you're taking your boat through the Ballard Locks in Seattle, whoever's at the helm is addressed as 'captain' or'skipper', gender be damned. We're all pretty much idiots in the lyckmyns'/ wYmn's eyes. Vowels are just over rated. Just replace them all with 'y'.
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Same experience on the ICW south of Norfolk, VA; whoever was on the VHF was just "Cap'n" But I also like just replacing the vowels with "y" oops, already halfway there with "eryka"
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