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I had a long post prepared here and thought better of it. I will say simply that I believe there was some truth in helenwiley's post (and you can find some examples right here in this thread), a big helping of self-serving stereotype, and a bunch of mis-attributed observation.

Perhaps it would be better for women to answer the question by describing their own personal reasons for posting, or not, rather than trying to ascribe motives to people other than themselves, and reviving twenty years of internet gender wars.

For example: "I don't post because I don't think I really have a lot to add to the conversation. It seems like there are lots of other people who have a lot more experience than I do." Or, "I don't post much because it upsets me to have my posts picked apart, taken out of context and criticised by people who can't even spell." Or even, "I guess you're right, I don't post much. Frankly, I think that a lot of the more-prolific posters are blowhards and I don't want people to think of me that way."

OTOH, denise did ask for rants, so I suppose rants are to be expected.

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Here's my rant.

Many men tend to be dismissive of our opinions, observations, and insights. Also I have noticed that men tend to think their way is the right way, even though there can be multiple strategies for solving a problem.

Men to want to control discourse through overstated opinion, often not backed by fact or reason. We women tend to back away from confrontation.

Also one must remember that males want dominance; females want consensus. Being dismissive, rude, and condescending is just another strategy to gain an advantage. We must understand this weakness in men and cut them some slack.
I agree with Helen for real time discussions.. but online, it's less of a problem imho. I love a good rant! (as long as they don't become personal attacks)

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Some times you really are surrounded by jerks .Little to do with gender .
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It's kind of ironic that more men than women have posted on this thread...
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Here's my rant.

Many men tend to be dismissive of our opinions, observations, and insights. Also I have noticed that men tend to think their way is the right way, even though there can be multiple strategies for solving a problem.

Men to want to control discourse through overstated opinion, often not backed by fact or reason. We women tend to back away from confrontation.

Also one must remember that males want dominance; females want consensus. Being dismissive, rude, and condescending is just another strategy to gain an advantage. We must understand this weakness in men and cut them some slack.
Feel better now?

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That's cause our wife's/girlfriends/mistresses control everything else in our lives... this is all we got.
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Here's my rant.

Many men tend to be dismissive of our opinions, observations, and insights. Also I have noticed that men tend to think their way is the right way, even though there can be multiple strategies for solving a problem.

Also one must remember that males want dominance; females want consensus. Being dismissive, rude, and condescending is just another strategy to gain an advantage. We must understand this weakness in men and cut them some slack.
Hey wait a second...I resemble that remark...
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It's scary how accurate she is...
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"male privilege" was one of my pet peeves. = why more men post on a women's forum then women!

And give advice when it's not needed...........
Tell you if you did good or bad because you "need" his approval.
Tell you to get his coffee, dinner, and wash his underwear.....
Takes the wheel.. makes her struggle with 40+ lb anchors, tying lines making everything "ready" for docking while he screams orders that no one can understand but him and looks to see who's impressed,

with the guys; he's thee most interesting man in the world" because that's what boys have to do in the company of others for them to be men?

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I used to be angry.. then I discovered I was feminist and I had a way and means to vent my anger. Now I'm still feminist, just not angry. I open doors for old men and cute guys. they do the same for me. it's OK... I don't put my agenda on them - they wouldn't get it anyway, because I don't "look" like a feminist.. (what do they look like anyway?)

I'm all done with marches, demonstrations and speaking at rallies and equality events. I still believe! I just passed the soapbox over the the younger people.

It's affirming see men marching with women in recent years. Women's rights have evolved and thankfully much of the militancy has subsided... Men have learned to buy and wash underwear and make dinner and still be Daddy's, husbands and lovers with out feeling emasculated.

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It's kind of ironic that more men than women have posted on this thread...
It is like that on most of the herSailnet threads. It makes some women really mad. I noticed that the female-centric section on Cruisers Forum is closer to what most women expect here. Less, if any, men post messages there.

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