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That's great to know and a super resource. I've been off the water for quite a while now so will need a little practice, but would really like trying this out (especially if they a white sail class for very slow boats..haha!)

How does one go about getting their official PHRF rating? The Sail Area/Disp ratio that is noted for this boat is less than what mine would be because my B28 has a small bowsprit and roller. Not sure if it was a factory modification or something done by a previous owner.
For the San Francisco Bay area races, we use the Yacht Racing Association. You most likely have a similar group in your area. Just ask around. You will give them the displacement, sail dimensions, and other info, which they will use as a formula to compute the PHRF. I don't have any firsthand knowledge of how the different regions establish these values, and though much of it is based on boat parameters, it is not a set number that translates the same to each region. I hear that if they haven't already issued a PHRF for your type of boat, then they are likely to guess at it until you have raced a bit and can show that you should rate higher (preferably).

I will keep an eye out for your posts. I'm one of those females who sails/races solo on her own boat, so I'm excited to welcome another to our ranks!

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For the San Francisco Bay area races, we use the Yacht Racing Association. You most likely have a similar group in your area. Just ask around. You will give them the displacement, sail dimensions, and other info, which they will use as a formula to compute the PHRF. I don't have any firsthand knowledge of how the different regions establish these values, and though much of it is based on boat parameters, it is not a set number that translates the same to each region. I hear that if they haven't already issued a PHRF for your type of boat, then they are likely to guess at it until you have raced a bit and can show that you should rate higher (preferably).

I will keep an eye out for your posts. I'm one of those females who sails/races solo on her own boat, so I'm excited to welcome another to our ranks!

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Yes, New England has the B28 rated as 189. I was pleasantly surprised to discover it was not higher.

Wow, you single hand race your Freedom? That's impressive and encouraging. In time I can become confident rounding the buoys solo. I will keep an eye on your posts also to learn how to set the boat up for efficient sailing. Thanks.

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Welcome Gail.
Congrats on your boat. Those are good ones. hope she does well for you.
Thank you!! I am so looking forward to getting her in the water!!

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Joining this thread late, but I'll chuck my 2 cents in.

I'm in the market for my first 100% self-financed, self-insured, self-everything boat (looking at a '79 Ericson 35 MKII). That being said, even in my previous boat owning experiences, I was the more experienced and more 'hands-on' of the couple. The bit that ticks me off is when we (my ex bf and I) would pull into a harbor, another cruiser would come over and immediately start talking to him about the passage and the intricacies of our boat, without so much as a glance at me...little did they know that my ex had no idea how to sail, and I, 'the woman' on board, was the licensed captain. Ugh.

I'd love to see more ladies out there not only taking full ownership of boats, but being active in the sailing community and really making a strong presence. I hope to be joining the ranks of owners this summer (i.e. people who buy a hole in the water into which they throw money) and I can't wait

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good luck skipper27,

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Joining this thread late, but I'll chuck my 2 cents in.

The bit that ticks me off is when we (my ex bf and I) would pull into a harbor, another cruiser would come over and immediately start talking to him about the passage and the intricacies of our boat, without so much as a glance at me...little did they know that my ex had no idea how to sail, and I, 'the woman' on board, was the licensed captain. Ugh.

Sail on, ladies. Sail on.
I saw that in action when I took my week long Cruise and Learn charter and course. Our live aboard instructor was a petite woman who was a couple of decades younger than me. When we stopped in a marina, she had me take the helm to get the boat handling and docking experience. She stood near me and gave me quiet instruction so it wasn't obvious that I was newbie.

Guys who came on the dock to catch our lines would ask me how I wanted to be tied off. The first couple of times she hesitated to speak. I guess, as a Canadian, she had heard that some American men have fragile egos and she didn't want to embarrass me. The first time I just said, "I don't know. I'm a student sailor. This the first time I've ever docked a sailboat. You'll have to ask my sailing instructor here." She seemed amused by the looks on guys' faces. It happened the whole week.

It happens the other way around as well. I was a stay at home dad with our kids, when they were little and I am the cook in our house. After 29 years of marriage, we still get friends who occasionally forget and compliment my wife on dinner. She will say, "Oh, thank him. He did all the cooking."

When I used to take my kids to the park with all the moms, when my kids get hurt and come to me crying, there would occasionally be a woman who would step in their path and swoop them up to comfort them. I encountered occasional women who would come over and offer to take my child from my arms to take care of them. It happened the most with my daughter. There seemed to be something about some of the women that they felt that a girl really needed comforting from a mom and not a dad.

I frequently had women say, "Oh, that's nice that you help your wife by taking the kids." I'd say, "Actually I have them all day everyday. She helps me taking them on Saturdays."


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Whew yeah I hear you! Thanks for being a stand-up guy - i.e. an overall good person who doesn't give a hoot about the stereotypical gender roles. Hopefully someday it won't be strange to see stay-at-home dads and lady captains!
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Awesome perspective, Midwesterner! Assumptions about gender/culture/ethnicity/religion/whatever drive me crazy, but it's hard not to either fall into the same mindset or to feel oft put by them when affected directly. A smile and gentle correction usually set most people straight Women who handle their boats are, as a whole, breaking gender norms, which is a good thing for everyone, especially the younger people who are just forming their own mindsets.
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.....The bit that ticks me off is when we (my ex bf and I) would pull into a harbor, another cruiser would come over and immediately start talking to him ......
Did that surprise you?
Did you find it unusual?
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