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Re: Is Sailing Sexist?

Went sailing with my 5 year old daughter today. We were tacking up past an island when she yells out "Come on Dad, go fast like Mom does". I don't think she thinks sailing is sexist. In fact, I think she doesn't know what that means yet. Good for her!

She was great today in fact. She helped me do everything and even ran the tiller for a couple miles on the way home (with my hand poised if needed.) What a great day!
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A boat is a "SHE", nuff said!
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Yes. I have never heard of a vessel being referred to as he, its always she handles well, etc. Us males should demand fair treatment!!! Grrrr
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There are two boats. Each has a race proven race crew. Each crew member has competed at a comparable level as the other. On paper, there is no difference, except one. One boat is crewed by men, the other by women. Who wins? And why?
That's pretty much already happened. The defender's series for the 1995 America's cup had three contenders. One team, America3, had an all-female crew (with a male tactician). If I remember right, they were on the verge of winning the last race and heading to the America's Cup as the defender. They were beating Dennis Conner on Stars and Stripes by several minutes heading towards the finish, when they made the odd tactical decision to split from Stars and Stripes. They hit a patch of dead air and ended up losing. (DC went on to lose to New Zealand 5-0.)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%C2%B3

So luck and tactics are more important than gender of the crew. From what I recall, aside from briefly mentioning that the crew was all-female in the intro to the broadcasts, and some news interview questions asking the crew how it felt to be the first all-women crew, nobody made a big deal about it. They treated the boat and crew just like any other team. The fact that their "first" has mostly been lost to the annals of history I think is a testament to the lack of sexism in the sport. (At least in public. Dunno what went on in private.)
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A boat is a "SHE", nuff said!
maybe I'll name my next boat Ralph.......is Obama a male or female name?
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Yes. I have never heard of a vessel being referred to as he, its always she handles well, etc. Us males should demand fair treatment!!! Grrrr
Lloyd's no longer refers to ships as "she" so no one else should, either.

Lloyd's List sinks the tradition of calling ships 'she' - Telegraph


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Lloyd's no longer refers to ships as "she" so no one else should, either.

Lloyd's List sinks the tradition of calling ships 'she' - Telegraph

They must have moved their hq to San Francisco. But for me, any vessel I ride on, in, is gonna be a she. Vessels have always been she and they will remain so in my book. I don't take orders from Loyd's do you?
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I'm not sure that I care what anyone calls their boat. My post was tongue in cheek.

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I'm not sure that I care what anyone calls their boat. My post was tongue in cheek.
< smile > all in fun. I was the guy that made the comment about how boats are always referred to as she, and my next boat was gonna be named Ralph. Well after the discussion I am inclined to go with tradition held since the dawn of sailing and hence forth my vessels will always be referred to as she, and spoiled like we men spoil all our women.

God bless you ladies, one and all with your beautiful bellowing sails that we men enjoy so very much.........
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I had learned that boats were called "she" because they carry, protect and then deliver the crew (or cargo) like a mother does her child.

Since we sailors are generally a suspicious group, and that it's know the name you give your boat affects the "personality", I'm not sure Ralph would be a good name.
First, a male boat may run around trying to "hook up" with every female boat willing to give him the time of day.
Second, a boat name Ralph may just "shoot your eye out" (Christmas Story) and spend too much money on Ovaltine.
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