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Hi There!

I am currently a Johnson Boat Works 1979 M 16 Scow owner. I have been raised on a scow and bought my very own in college. I have had it stored for the past 3 years and finally some kind of fireworks went off in my head to take the boat back home and do some serious renovation!

I am currently based out of Minneapolis, MN 3 blocks away from Lake Harriet and am hoping soon (once the boat is prepped) I can go terrorize the scow club over there.

Excited to dive into Sail Net!

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Side Note: I have been struggling with finding documentation on the suggested lengths of the rigging for the M16 Scow does anyone have that information? I am purchasing all new rigging shortly and am trying to find the best approach.
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Standing or running rigging?
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Re: Hello!

Also check out Wayzata Yacht Club - Sailboat Racing They seem to have pretty active one design fleets... no mention of the scows though. Regardless that's a quick little boat, with endless rigging/trim combinations. Sounds like a blast to sail!
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Re: Hello!

My running rigging is in need of the serious love. Already looking between harken and ronstan blocks and clam cleats.

The boat has original gear and I rehabbed the wood trim pieces so I kinda would like to keep it to original spec. The hull seems real firm. I just need to clean it up.
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Thanks Shnool. Ill check out that club. I think they tend to be larger boat races. I wouldn't mind getting into a crew over there though.
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Re: Hello!

A few links to try:

North American M-Scow Association: Sailing Hints I

http://www.onedesign.com/Portals/106...ning-guide.pdf

I don't quickly see running rigging lengths, and that's may be, in part, because the owners and different manufacturers modify the rigs so there isn't really a standard.

A rough guesstimate for the main halyard is twice the height of your mast plus 2-3 feet, depending on where it cleats.

The jib halyard is going to need to be height of your mast plus the length of the forestay, plus at least 2-3 feet depending on where it cleats. If it's hard to measure the length of the forestay, you can probably get away with twice the height of the mast plus 4-5'. The way a right-angle triangle works out, the longest line, which would be your forestay, is pretty close to the length of the longest side if one side is significantly longer than the other, as is the case with most boats.

Once you're able to hoist the sails, then you can buy cheap rope from Harbor Freight, Home Depot, etc. and figure out the other lengths. For example, for the jib sheets, assuming you are dead downwind, which is about as far out as the jib will get, the lazy jib sheet will need to be the longest. There, I think it needs to be length of the foot of the sail plus the beam of the boat plus a few feet. In this case, I'd probably over-order by a few feet each way, unless you want to actually fly the jib with the junk rope to get the "right" measurements.

The vang and main sheets will depend on the hardware you have. Again, I think you're better off using cheap rope to take the measurements.
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Wow thanks for the info on how to use the lengths of the mast and forestay as a guide. I would have never guessed.
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