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Hello to everyone in the forums! Hope it's not too crowded in here
My name is Matt. My fathers family moved here from Norway..... several years ago <my grandfather was the first Magelssen born in America> and most of the Magelssens are still in Norway from my understanding. My dad was in the Air Force when I was born at Ramstein AFB in Germany. Now, at the tender age of 34, I find myself in the dustbowl called Oklahoma Oh well, life goes on

A couple of months ago, I heard a report on the radio about a family that spent the last 8 years cruising around the world in a sailboat. The parents were tired of the rat race and didn't want their children growing up in that environment. Completely understandable, right? Anyways, I became intrigued with the whole lifestyle of just cruising around the world. Last year, I grew tired of just working to live, as well as being told I was too slow as a mechanic because I made sure my jobs were correct (yet, funnily enough, none of my managers ever scolded me about not having any comebacks on any of my jobs - weird, huh?) and decided to go back to school for music. Currently, I'm going to an associate college to get my fundamentals out of the way at a much cheaper rate before going for a composition degree. I figure on going to school for at least the next 4-5 years for that, possibly longer if I decide I want a Master's in Music Theory. Then, I want to buy a sailboat and just cruise around the world writing music and visiting Scandinavia and mainland Europe, which I visited but don't remember since I left there when I was 2 years old. I also want to visit New Zealand, Easter Island, and Japan, and follow the trail the United States took during WW II back to Hawaii, then travel around the Horn to complete a circumnavigation.

I've been looking at different boats on the internet. I don't have a significant other at the moment, so I'm looking at a smaller boat that is well built, capable of bluewater sailing. Don't care about racing, although I have been invited to crew with some of the Oklahoma City Boat Club next year when their racing season starts and plan to join them for the next few years to learn how to sail in a racing environment. I'm currently looking at the Nordic Folkboat, or a variation, the Marieholm Folkboat, as a first cruiser. It's supposed to be a small, well-built one-make cruiser that is extremely dependable, very capable bluewater cruiser that has been manufactured since 1942 and is extremely cheap. I don't care about frills all that much (although frills are always appreciated lol). I do have a significant setback with a smaller boat - I stand 6'6" tall and I saw a footnote on the folkboat that the cabin height is only 4'8" Do I have to go for a bigger boat (35'+) to accommodate my bigger frame?

On a separate note, for bluewater cruising, is a catamaran or trimaran more preferable to a monohull? I know they are supposed to be more stable than a monohull, as well as faster (and more roomy in the case of the cat), but I've also seen monohulls listed as self-righting, which a multihull cannot do (and I've seen the pictures of the racing trimaran upside down with the crew being rescued). How hard is it to flop a multihull? Is it worth looking at them over a multihull boat for the extra room?

Anyways, as I noted earlier, I have plenty of time to perfectly plan my escape from the idiocy that is called the Government. Any and all help and positive criticism is greatly appreciated.

yours truly, the Wayward Viking

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Viking in Oklahoma... that/s a good one.

Well, you asked a bunch of questions. First, are you serious about a Folkboat or whatever around the world? Wow. Probably would not be my first choice.

As far as a catamaran flipping, I think it would take something pretty serious to pitcpole a cat. It has happened, but the reality is that you are talking hurricane force stuff. But cats have other inherent problems, like cost and ability to find a slip (like in S Fl) that make them less appealing. You do get a lot more room though.

South of you is Lake Texoma. Believe it or not, they make a world-class bluewater (circumnavigating) boat there called the Valiant. Valiant's have probably done more circums than any other boat (wild guess, but probably true). Very friendly people. Nice marina to look a the boats. Why don't you take a weekend and go down there and stay in one of their cottages and enjoy yourself and see some of their boats. Or, at least frive down there and walk around. Just google Cedar Mills Marina dn Resort. You can find your way from there.

Other than that - welcome aboard.

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Thanks for the greets!

Cd, As I was looking around the internet, I found the Folkboat and thought it had a nice look to it, and the only complaint I found was her general lack of room, really. Otherwise, at least according to the internet, she is supposed to have a great reputation as a cruiser. Since I have only gone out to sea on a charter boat once from San Diego back in '95, I don't have any knowledge of what makes a good cruiser, really. One reason why I figured to research the next few years before actually biting the sail, so to speak. Would you elaborate on why you wouldn't consider a newer folkboat? I will definitely look at the Valiant though, no boat is set in stone

Another question: Is there any way to tell how big a boat is on the inside when I am looking up boats on the internet? Like I said, I'm 6'6" tall, I'd like to get a 'feel' for how big the interiors of these boats I'm looking at compare to each other. Is there a general rule of thumb as to how big a boat you need for your personal size?

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If you want to go around the world, you need a boat with lots of water and fuel and lots of storage. You need a boat with an oversized running gear, high lifelines, and a tight cockpit. You ned a deep bilge and solid built. We won't even get into the performance aspect.

I am not saying you cannot go around the world in a Folkboat. They are beautiful day sailors. But how much luck would it take? You can go around teh world in a canoe with enough luck. But there are boats that are really made with long distance destinations in mind. They have many or all of the properties I mentioned above. It does not mean it has to be a big or expensive boat. There are many examples of boat in the 20's and 30 foot range that are solid built long distance designed boats. The Folkboat strikes me as a nice day sailor that will turn heads in New England. I have neer sailed one. THis is my perception.

I would suggest reviewing one of the countless threads we have here on blue water boats and what many experienced sailors look for. You will hear a lot of varying opinions. I doubt any of them are wrong, but many have merit more than others. 6'6 will be a problem with almost all the boats that are 'small'. Heck, 6'6 will be a problem with boats over 40'!! Many of the listings on Yachtworld will list headroom, but get ready for dissapointment. If your boat is not a bubble, in order to keep nice lines and have 6'6 head room, that would have to be a long boat.

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I think a solid boat for crossing oceans that is well built and inexpeisive would be a Vega. Here is an example of one:

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Thanks so much for the replies, Cd, and that Vega looks pretty nice too! I really like the under $20k price tag
And you're right about my headroom problem :P
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As you are a viking, I think you've got to explore Ericson boats. Logo and graphics are a viking helmet. Secondarily, Ericsons are known for headroom. Good luck.
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Thanks for the heads up, GMC - I really dig the scandinavian boats! Although of course I wouldn't turn my nose up at any boat that's good
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