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Hi LaurenceU,
I have a Grainger 41 under contract. if you google that it will come up on Yachthub.com. I have been looking now for over a year and looked at about 20 different styles of boats. But always keep coming back to this design. Look and proforms like a dream. I did get an phone call for another Grainger
for $100k less for the asking price from a broker. Another great boat, but I am under contract for this one besides the current owner have been more then fair with us.

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Hi Ilenart,
Thanks for the information. i do have a bit of experince. I have skipper
to assist me on the most of the trip. So good times ahead.

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Talking Almost Owners

Fiona and I have just returned from our Test sail of the new (to us) boat.
Past with flying colours :-) Survey all good. It's now listed on the web page as Sold. Take delivery of her in Cairns on 07 July. As soon as I can find out how to put pics on I will but for now:
Used Chincogan Grainger 41 for Sale | Yachthub


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Congratulations Jason and Fiona,

All the very best for your adventure. I hope to read about your progress. Laurence
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Hi, sorry to barge in on this thread but it seems to be the only one I can find on a search that is a bit relevant!

I am expecting a job offer to move from my job in Angola to Perth and one of the attractions was the normal working hours and the great sailing. I have a Van der Stadt 33 in Liverpool, UK and a Island Trader 38 in Mallorca, Spain and was thinking of shipping one of them out but having looked at the various clubs on the internet the availability of places to keep a yacht seem limited and outrageously expensive to the point I may not take the job!

Can anyone in Perth advise on what the real cost of keeping a 33' yacht in Perth are likely to be and what are the options - and what is a 'pen'?

Thanks, and again sorry for butting in!

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Hi, sorry to barge in on this thread but it seems to be the only one I can find on a search that is a bit relevant!

I am expecting a job offer to move from my job in Angola to Perth and one of the attractions was the normal working hours and the great sailing. I have a Van der Stadt 33 in Liverpool, UK and a Island Trader 38 in Mallorca, Spain and was thinking of shipping one of them out but having looked at the various clubs on the internet the availability of places to keep a yacht seem limited and outrageously expensive to the point I may not take the job!

Can anyone in Perth advise on what the real cost of keeping a 33' yacht in Perth are likely to be and what are the options - and what is a 'pen'?

Thanks, and again sorry for butting in!

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G'day Mike welcome to Sailnet. You could of started a new thread to ask your question, however I will have a go.

For a 10m pen (pen = berth or slip) that would fit a 33ft yacht you would expect to pay A$350 to say $600(?) per month. However some clubs / marinas may only have 12m+ pens available, so you would pay more. However the issue is more availablity than price. For example my club has at least a 2 year waiting list for pens.

Also note that with a lot of the clubs you need to be a member before you can join the waiting list. So you have a joining fee (A$1000 to $3000) plus annual memberships (A$500 to A$1000).

If you want to avoids clubs / joining fees you would be looking at private marinas, however they are considerably more expensive. Pier 21 near Fremantle is advertising a 7m pen (which is to small for both your boats) for $4,000 per year and a 21m pen for A$21,000 per year.

Other options include moorings on the Swan river or near Rockingham. However most of these you would have to purchase for A$10-20k as the local authorities are clamping down on renting moorings. You could also look at storing your boat outside of the Perth metropoliton area (ie Rockingham, Mandurah or Bunbury).

Yes it sucks, however the WA government has really dropped the ball with regards to mooring facilties in Perth / West Australia. You really need to have a pen / berth lined up before shipping your boat out here, otherwise you could have your boat sitting on the hard and / or paying big $$$.

Hope this helps, Ilenart
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Ilenart,
thanks for your swift response - its appreciated!

Yeah, I thought about a new thread but I obviously needed to target someone that might be subscribed to a thread and might get a notification - it seems to have worked anyway and thanks again!

I just can't believe how expensive sailing is in Perth and I thought we were hard done by in Europe! At the moment I pay about GBP3,000 ($4,800) a year for the 33' boat on a serviced, pontoon berth in a secure marina in Liverpool City Centre. The ketch is on a swinging mooring in Mallorca and that's Eur2,400 a year. So a lot cheaper. I also had a look at boat prices in Perth and it seems that they are maybe 2x or 3x what we pay in the UK for say a 1980's model.

All in all it looks pretty depressing! My agent sent me an email today telling me how great it is in Perth but its not looking good from a sailing point of view!

Seems I may be staying in Angola!

Cheers and many thanks,
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Unfortunately, Ilenarts' prices aren't just Perth, but Australia in general.

Yes, this is an expensive place to own a boat, but I'd like to think it makes for highly dedicated sailors!

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Hartley18,
thanks, well that really is depressing - I really thought it was a Perth phenomenon. The only positive I can see so far is that I could start a good boat export business to Australia! Many of the boats in the UK hardly get used - a sharp hike in marina fees would probably just lead to a lot of boats for sale rather than busier sailors. Are most of the boats in Australia in use?

Seems I am going to have to negotiate hard if they really want me!

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