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JIvories 01-11-2013 04:07 PM

New in Narragansett Bay
 
Hello, Like a couple others who posted here I'm new to sailing, or cruising anyway. Just bought a 30 S2 aft cockpit (9.2A). Very much looking forward to sailing it from Plymouth, Mass, to Providence, Edgewood YC, where we'll have a mooring. That will be in May, hopefully early May.

Would appreciate any tips about navigating out of Plymouth, the canal, Buzzard's bay, Newport, etc. I know you have to be with the current in the canal. Wondering if we can do the trip to Providence in 2 days, one night, or if it requires 2 nights. And if there are any challenges to be aware of.

Eager to hear about any interesting cruising experiences in the area, Narragansett, The islands, LI sound. I just wish to heck it was May already. Champing at the bit here...

GMC 01-11-2013 09:23 PM

Re: New in Narragansett Bay
 
Hi,
Welcome and congratulations. As you probably know and will hear in other responses, you need a copy of the 2013 Eldridge. Maybe you've got it already. A little study of its tables and current charts and you'll get what you need for the canal and for Buzzard's Bay. The breeze usually picks up pretty well in the afternoon in BB and is usually from the southwest, but you could find it coming from any direction on any given day. You will read in Eldridge and in other guides about what can happen when you clear the canal and with the current at your back and the SW breeze in your face and the water being pushed up into the current. It can get pretty hairy. So, again, avoid those precise conditions on the day you go through if you can. Plenty of places to stop overnight on the way. You could do the whole trip in one day with good conditions and an early start, but why not check out Quisset, Hadley Harbor, or Marion etc on the way down. Or go to Cuttyhunk, which you'll love. Other than weather and seas in adverse weather, BB is no problem navigating, pretty much a straight shot unless you are entering any of the BB harbors. My boat moored in New Bedford and if you need anything in that harbor when you pass by, let me know. I'll let others comment about Narragansett Bay. If you get stuck for crew and need another body on board, let me know. When I got my boat a few years ago, I brought it down from Beverly, MA to New Bedford, MA and that inaugural trip is still a great memory.
Greg

Minnewaska 01-12-2013 06:58 AM

Re: New in Narragansett Bay
 
Congrats on the new boat!!

Not sure if you intend to sail through that one night? If not, I don't think you're going to find it doable in two long day sails in a 30 footer, especially if you sail. As you seem to know, you must time the canal current too. While you aren't required to check in with canal traffic control (forgot the official name), I suggest you call first anyway. Nice to know if there is a tanker coming the other way.

You may find that keeping your boat in Providence is a bit limiting. Lots of commercial traffic in the narrowest part of the Bay. It is also a loooong trip to open water from there. Even Block Island would take all day. If its an option, I would consider Greenwich or Warwick or Bristol, if not even further south. More options from there.

Happy to help with anything you need to know on the Bay or vicinity. Personally, we much prefer sailing destinations that are eastward from the Bay/Block, over LIS. Maybe its because I grew up boating on LIS and its old hat, but I do find a difference. However, explore them all !!

Don't hesitate to drop a PM to start a thread on anything I can help with.

Minnewaska 01-12-2013 07:00 AM

Re: New in Narragansett Bay
 
Oh yea. May? We launch Apr 1. :)

jameswilson29 01-12-2013 08:14 AM

Re: New in Narragansett Bay
 
As you are a professor, here is your required reading list:

"The Coast of Summer" by Anthony Bailey - it contains detailed descriptions of navigating in your waters

"A Visual Cruising Guide to the Southern New England Coast" by James Bildner

Eldridge's Tide and Pilot Book, 2013

MapTech Cruising Guide for the Northeast/New England

MapTech Chartkit for Region 2: Block Island to Canada

JIvories 01-12-2013 03:55 PM

Re: New in Narragansett Bay
 
Wow, many great suggestions already. Eldridges is a must. Sounds like the secret to the CC Canal is waiting for just current but good conditions where it meets Buzzard's. Depending on those, might be able to make it a one-night trip. But if we need two nights that could be fun. I really want to see Cuttyhunk, but have always wanted to moor in Westport harbor, and go to the Back Eddy in a dinghy.

Anyway, thanks! James: I'm on that reading list and charts. That'll help me get through the winter!

As for Providence being far from open water. Yes... I've been a little afraid that's the case. But there are some nice day sails around here (Prudence, Bristol, EG), and I don't think the commercial traffic is too bad, having sailed here. The idea of the Yacht Club being within walking distance of my house, being able to go work on the boat, or go for quick evening sail is nice. And a great group of people, events, club sailing etc.
So we'll see. Then again the open water & islands are on my mind, so yeah maybe we'll want to moor south of here the next year.

blutoyz 01-16-2013 11:53 AM

Re: New in Narragansett Bay
 
There's lots to do in a day on the bay so for recreational purposes you will be fine in Edgewood. I am new to the "sailboat" thing but have been on the bay my entire life.

We have a four boat "pirate fleet" so if you see the cocktail colors flying in Potter's Cove feel free to come over, raft up, and have a cocktail or two. As long as you are not politically correct you will fit right in....LOL.

Bill
"Houligans"

HUGOSALT 01-17-2013 01:10 AM

Re: New in Narragansett Bay
 
Best of luck with new boat!
Made trip from LIS to Kittery Maine 2nd week in May 2011,
be prepared for cold, possibly wet, possibly foggy trip.
If memory serves me water temps were about 42f and air temps
not much warmer at night. We went straight thru from Point
Judith pond to Kittery, 32 hours combo sail, motorsail, motoring(after being stopped in our tracks for 3 days with a 35plus knot headwind). Maybe more familiar sailnetters can comment on
what is the norm/expected in early May.
What I do remember is that the northern entrance to the canal is not a good place if strong northerly wind.
As referenced in above post you want to check in with the "Cape Cod Canal Control" folks. Beware of the Buzzards Bay Railroad Bridge at the southern end of the canal...if train passing you will
have to deal with lowered bridge and strong current.
Suggest you are very comfortable/confident with motor before
making delivery, hopefully your S2 has a Yanmar, but the early
Atomic or Volvos are also good if there in good shape.
Sometimes sail with my mooring neighbor on his 30 S2 great boat,
lots of room below, we make a point of reefing early and then really
enjoy.
Best,
Hugo

HUGOSALT 01-17-2013 02:40 AM

Re: New in Narragansett Bay
 
Just a point I'd like to make, when sailing in waters with temps
as low as you will experience in early May, boat must have a life raft
and/or at least a serious dinghy on board or I'm a no go. Realize that this is a near coastal trip, but thats how I see it especially if
crew is aboard.

Minnewaska 01-17-2013 07:08 AM

Re: New in Narragansett Bay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HUGOSALT (Post 977002)
Just a point I'd like to make, when sailing in waters with temps
as low as you will experience in early May, boat must have a life raft
and/or at least a serious dinghy on board or I'm a no go. Realize that this is a near coastal trip, but thats how I see it especially if
crew is aboard.

I fully agree with the liferaft, but feel that the dinghy is a false sense of security, if seas are over 2 ft. Liferaft companies go to great lengths to try to design them to resist capsize and they are only marginally effective.

Further, the time necessary to get the dink in the water is a concern, unless you are pulling it on a painter. If there is enough time to launch a dink, I bet there is enough time to stop the leak. I collect every single leak stop gimmick I find at boat shows! Hoping never to use them (though I actually have in non-emergency repairs). If there isn't time or the leak is too big, you would have to just cut the dinghy away from davits or a deck mount and hope it stays righted while you get aboard. Flip it and I don't think you'll never get it upright from the water.


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