Irwin 38 Mark 1 CC 1984 - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > Boat Builders Row > Irwin
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By jameswilson29
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 07-03-2013
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
tvitaz is on a distinguished road
Irwin 38 Mark 1 CC 1984

We are considering purchasing an Irwin 38 Mark 1 (1984) CC to eventually do some passages to the Bahamas, etc. I read somewhere that the Irwin's are not good blue water boats and cannot find anything to refute that. Does anyone have any knowledge of their ocean worthiness or lack, thereof??


How would the Irwin match up to an Endeavour 35?

Thanks, in advance.
Trish
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 07-03-2013
jameswilson29's Avatar
Senior Smart Aleck
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 2,152
Thanks: 34
Thanked 70 Times in 65 Posts
Rep Power: 6
jameswilson29 is on a distinguished road
Re: Irwin 38 Mark 1 CC 1984

Your inquiry has been previously discussed ad nauseum on this listserv and others.

There are 2 issues involved:

1. Is a passage from the U.S. to the Bahamas a blue water passage requiring a blue water boat?

Most would say "No". I believe the Irwins and Endeavors, with their shoal drafts, were designed for these kinds of trips and gunkholing in the Bahamas. So those boats would be o.k. for your desired passage.

2. Are Irwins and Endeavors blue water boats?

You should consult with reputable, objective, third-party sources (which would not include a owner of that brand of sailboat) to answer this question. Mahina Expeditions has an extensive list of blue water boats with comments about each. Why don't you check that list to see if any Irwins or Endeavors are listed?
Mahina Expedition - Selecting A Boat for Offshore Cruising

Many novices make the mistake of believing the boat is what matters. The skipper is far more important than the boat. The most important characteristics of a competent skipper are his good judgment, common sense and problem solving ability. The second most important characteristics would be courage and perseverance in the face of adversity. If you read the forum threads here long enough, you will realize that these characteristics are in short supply.

The sad fact is these aspects can not be bought (unless you hire a good skipper) or taught, no matter how many ASA courses one takes. Years and years of experience do not necessarily develop these aspects. There are plenty of threads here where someone ends up abandoning a perfectly capable blue-water boat because he or she has poor judgment or lacks courage - do a forum search for "Coast Guard rescue". No boat can make up for those deficiencies in a sailor.

So the real question is: Are you capable of making such a passage?
jimgo likes this.

Last edited by jameswilson29; 07-03-2013 at 10:52 AM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 07-03-2013
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
tvitaz is on a distinguished road
Re: Irwin 38 Mark 1 CC 1984

Thanks for your input. I did come across a thread (God only knows how . . . ) about this subject after I posted in the forum.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
IRWIN 37 Mark V -- 1981 tschrader Irwin 4 12-28-2013 12:10 AM
1984 c&c 35-3 hillenme Boat Review and Purchase Forum 42 02-05-2013 05:36 PM
rubrail ericson 35 mark 111 1984 waterworld General Discussion (sailing related) 2 03-03-2009 08:50 PM
New Owner, 1980, Mark V, Irwin, CC with ?'s cacruzn Irwin 3 06-30-2008 11:12 AM
New Owner, 1980 Irwin 37, Mark V, Center Cockpit ?'s cacruzn Gear & Maintenance 3 06-25-2008 02:02 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:23 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.