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WARNING: Do not equalize gel or AGM batteries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
one of two things might happen; screw the batteries (burn out) or screw the boat (burn up). Read your battery manual 1st.
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WARNING: Do not equalize gel or AGM batteries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
one of two things might happen; screw the batteries (burn out) or screw the boat (burn up). Read your battery manual 1st.

Please read the entire thread before posting!

SOME AGM batteries CAN be equalized and considering the short lives this type of battery has had in the marine market many Lifeline owners are darn happy Lifeline designed their batteries to withstand an equalizing or conditioning charge..


I will post this again:

Before you make factually worded statements like you did above, you should ideally freshen up your knowledge on the subject before posting.

Considering this thread was originally, back in 2006, about Lifeline & Deka/East Penn batteries, and Lifeline says equalizing is okay to do if the batteries are showing diminished capacity, and Deka says no then your broad based statement above is an unreliable choice of presented information. In a worst case scenario it might cause someone with Lifelines to buy new batteries pre-maturely, which could be an expensive mistake, before trying and equalizing / conditioning charge.

This is a DIRECT quote from Lifeline:


"Conditioning/Equalizing Charge: 15.5 volts for 8 hours. Conditioning/equalizing should only be done when the battery is showing symptoms of capacity loss. If conditioning/equalizing is necessary, first go through the normal charge cycle. Once the battery is as fully charged as possible, start the conditioning/equalizing charge.

To apply a conditioning charge, first go through the normal charge cycle to bring the battery to full charge. The conditioning charge should then be applied by charging for 8 hours. At 77°F (25°C), the conditioning voltage should be set at 2.58 VPC (15.5 volts for a 12 volt battery). The conditioning voltage at other temperatures is shown in Table 5-2. By using the temperature compensated conditioning voltage, batteries that are not in controlled temperature environments may be conditioned without bringing them to room temperature. If temperature compensation is not available, it is best to bring the battery as close to room temperature as possible before applying the conditioning charge.

For maximum battery life, a battery must be recharged to 100% capacity. Recharging to less than 100% may result in premature battery failure. Lifeline batteries are not covered under warranty if they are not recharged properly. For more information, please refer to our warranty policy."


A more accurate statement would have been to say that some manufacturers say it is okay to equalize AGM's and some or many others prefer that you don't. As always and as you said at the end read the manual or check with your manufacturer before equalizing AGM batteries. But some AGM's CAN be equalized!


Because each manufacturer has specific requirements for their own AGM's a blanket statement can not be made for all AGM batteries. Here is Trojan's statement on equalizing AGM's.


Direct quote from Trojan Battery:

WARNING: Do not equalize gel or AGM batteries.


If you had left your statement as "Read your battery manual 1st" it would have been accurate information. Clearly blanket statements do not always work as applied to all brands of AGM batteries and seeing as Lifeline is perhaps the #1 AGM maker in terms of marine market volume, here in the US, that means that a LOT of boaters can equalize their AGM's....
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Thanks, I talked to a tech at lifeline and he said its ok to condition in the salon just ventilate well in case there is a release of hydrogen it becomes dangerous at only 4%! I'll wait till the weather warms up and I have to do some glass work on the companion way coaming.
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This is the problem with mixing batteries. Some AGMs can handle equalization while others will just run away; all bad. I would suggest removing the connections to the ones that CAN be equalized (make sure the other batteries are fully charged) and equalize them with a separate battery charger as that will allow you to leave the settings alone on your charger or inverter/charger if you have one. Once equalized, disconnect the external battery charger and reconnect those batteries. This is why I caution most not to equalize any AGM until you read your manufacturers manuals, considering the average boater's electrical/electronic skills.

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