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juddgefizzy 06-27-2013 12:06 PM

Small boat single handed hoisting
Hey all, this is my first season with my Precision 165. I sail in the mountains in Colorado where it's can be really gusty and I'm having difficulty hoisting my main solo. I have an electric outboard to motor out of my slip, but I was hoping to get some suggestions on effective tiller rigs, some sort of makeshift autopilot I can use to point into the wind long enough for me to get to the foredeck and hoist.

Any suggestions or tricks would be appreciated!

Jeff_H 06-27-2013 12:53 PM

Re: Small boat single handed hoisting
I know of no easy answers on this but here are a few thoughts:
-Small boats like this often raise their mainsails while hung off a bowline at a dock- bow into the wind, and then sail off from there.

-If you can't do that and need to raise the mainsail underway, then you really need to figure out how to raise the sail from the cockpit while steering with the tiller between your knees.

-There are things that make raising the mainsail single-handed much easier. If you have a bolt rope that goes into a groove in the mast, then you might want to buy a 'pre-feeder' like the Holt feeder seen here at the bottom of the page-

Or better yet, the Harken part #947 Prefeeder seen here Harken Hardware Catalog

This will allow you to raise the sail without having to be at the mast to feed it into the luff groove.

Alternately, have slugs installed on your main, if you do not have them already.

There are tricks to raising the mainsail underway, but the can be risky in shifty-gusty conditions. The consist of sheeting the boom close to amidships and start raising the mainsail while facing roughly into the wind. Most boats will reach off a little and then round up into the wind, tack through and do the same on the other tack. That is called short tack and if you allow the boat to short tack, you can partially raise the mainsail every time you pass through the wind, until it is all the way up.

juddgefizzy 06-27-2013 01:05 PM

Re: Small boat single handed hoisting
Thanks for the reply, I do have a bolt rope that can make things more difficult, so I'll definitely look in to the pre-feeder option. I'm not sure how I'd go about hoisting from the cabin without running a lot of new hardware. I'll take a look at some posts regarding that.

juddgefizzy 06-27-2013 01:37 PM

Re: Small boat single handed hoisting

juddgefizzy 06-27-2013 01:38 PM

Re: Small boat single handed hoisting

juddgefizzy 06-27-2013 01:39 PM

Re: Small boat single handed hoisting
Apologies for the ... posts, I couldn't post links or images until I had 10 posts. I'm new!

So if I were to add some hardware, would something like this be what I would consider? It would be awesome to do without any holes in the deck but I'm not sure that's possible.

Here's the mockup:

deniseO30 06-27-2013 01:46 PM

Re: Small boat single handed hoisting
Make the holes. use through bolts with fender washers on the bottom and if you want to cut the bolts just the right length, use round headed nuts on the bottom. (May spare you scalping some skin) The bolt rope is still going to be a problem. I single hand my Oday30 it takes about a minute to raise the main.

juddgefizzy 06-27-2013 01:50 PM

Re: Small boat single handed hoisting
I see, that makes sense. So your rig there looks like it's running two halyards supported by a single winch. That's a great idea, thanks for the reply.

Vartok 06-27-2013 01:53 PM

Re: Small boat single handed hoisting
I have a C28. When I am single-handing I wrap a line around the tiller and tie it off. Super simple, and it works too.

tschmidty 06-27-2013 02:16 PM

Re: Small boat single handed hoisting
First, love those genoa tracks on the cabin top, that'll get you some tight sheeting angles even if it looks like you could run into some interference with the shrouds.

On a small boat it is tough, because even with something like a tiller clutch and motoring, the bow will swing off in the wind.

All good ideas above and your diagram looks fine, and you will have to drill a couple holes. Instead of adding a block on the mast you can add a halyard organizer plate and add blocks as needed. The small one here will fit your tabernacle.

Or a turning block directly on the deck would work.

And adding slugs really helps a ton in raising the main and is pretty easy and inexpensive. Sailrite has a guide and on my 17' I used example #1 which is plastic slides and no grommets needed. Literally < $20 in materials even including a few spares (which you will want!).

Here is the guide: Slugs, Slides & Shackles - Selection, Installation and Positioning Instructions

You would normally use a sailstop and then you can prefeed your slugs at the dock and have them held above the gate. On my boat, couldn't find one where the threaded part of the stop was narrow enough to slide in the track. Another option is a mast gate which is very nice but is $50-60 if I recall but you can DIY one also.

For my boat I drilled a very small hole (3/32" I think) and use a cotter pin attached via some very small line through another small hole. Fairly common and you can't lose it. Drawback is that you have to drill a hole and there is some slight risk of tearing your sail but just round off the cotter pin end with a file.

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