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domromer 07-17-2013 04:39 PM

Flipped a sunfish twice today...what was I doing wrong.
 
We had a decent wind here today at 15-20 mph. Normally I sail a hobie wave but today I tried a sunfish. All was going well for a while then i tried to tack...bam I was in the water. After righting the boat I was off again. A few moe minutes of good sailing then I tried to jib...bam in the water again. I' not sure if I had too much or too little sail out. Also I keep thinking the boom is going to take my head off. Is there a trick for getting the boom a little higher?

MarkofSeaLife 07-17-2013 04:53 PM

Re: Flipped a sunfish twice today...what was I doing wrong.
 
Cats turn much slower than monos so you did your tack way too slow. Rip the boat through the wind in 10% of the time you would on a Hobie.

:)

domromer 07-17-2013 06:38 PM

Re: Flipped a sunfish twice today...what was I doing wrong.
 
I'm confused, how does the make a difference?

RobGallagher 07-17-2013 06:52 PM

Re: Flipped a sunfish twice today...what was I doing wrong.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by domromer (Post 1060739)
I'm confused, how does the make a difference?

Someone else please correct me if this is not good info, but I'll give it a go anyway.

If you tack to slowly you lose forward momentum and when the sail comes over you will make more leeway and heal over more.

Also, if you tack slowly you may tend to move your weight to the new windward side slower, maybe to slow.

When jibing it's very important that you get your weight over, if your but is still on the same side as the boom you will probably go over.

I hope that's accurate...

FlyingJunior 07-17-2013 06:55 PM

Flipped a sunfish twice today...what was I doing wrong.
 
When tacking move to the other rail when the boom crosses over, shouldn't have to do anything with Mainsheet . When jibing, sheet in, turn thru, switch rails, then sheet out. It can get tough when wind direction is constantly changing.

miatapaul 07-17-2013 07:26 PM

Re: Flipped a sunfish twice today...what was I doing wrong.
 
If it is anywhere near as hot as it is here, going over a couple of times was likely a good thing! :-) Sounds like you did not get over quite quick enough, I have not been on a sunfish though in over 30 years, so it is hard to remember the exact procedure. There is a lot less stability than on a Hobie as well, since you have less beam and the buoyancy is more centered.

Sal Paradise 07-17-2013 07:39 PM

Re: Flipped a sunfish twice today...what was I doing wrong.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by domromer (Post 1060701)
We had a decent wind here today at 15-20 mph.

Whoa that is a lot of wind for a Sunfish!

What were the gusts? 30 knots?:eek:

guyfromiowa 07-17-2013 08:17 PM

Re: Flipped a sunfish twice today...what was I doing wrong.
 
If you only flipped a Sunfish twice you just need to practice. I was able to get that number up to seven or eight after a while......

Actually, once you get the hang of it you'll turtle it less. Until you try going faster. It's all part of the deal.

And sailing a Sunfish is a great way to develop the 'feel' of the boat and sail and the wind. Makes your reflexes quicker and more accurate.

flo617 07-17-2013 08:18 PM

Re: Flipped a sunfish twice today...what was I doing wrong.
 
Dinghies like these are very light and unstable. You have to immediately counter the shift in the force of the wind with your weight.

That means you probably need to switch side and hike out faster.


Or be gentler when you tack and be easier on the sheet.

Lou452 07-17-2013 08:33 PM

Re: Flipped a sunfish twice today...what was I doing wrong.
 
They are made to flip just get back in and try some more tacks you will get faster. stay up forward and shift your weight faster. You do not need to cleat a sunfish you can play the wind better just holding the sheet. One last thing tie the mast to the boat so if you do turtle it will not go for the bottom :-)
Have Fun , Lou


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