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windwalker 08-16-2013 12:11 PM

Rotten Luck - Stays & Dinghy Question
 
It's been a really rough week. Dad and I were working on Windwalker after I winched him up the mast only to find that the mast light cover was completely seized (light is out). So he couldn't put on the RWI I had requested, either.

On the way down, he inspected the shrouds and stays. We found a broken lower shroud (starboard), so he took it off and the rigger repaired it. After I winched him up, again, to put the newly repaired lower shroud back on, I noted that another lower starboard shroud had a cable break. Lucky me, up I went to take it off.

Rigger repaired, winched dad up and he put it on.

Monday we took Windwalker out to the open ocean and on the way back, I look up and say a mouthful of expletive deleteds, as the backstay had a popped strand of cable curling up. First appointment with rigger is Wednesday, so we'll motor her over.

Rigger will check the remaining stays, and see if he can get the light cover off and put on the RWI. At this point, mom says all remaining stays should be replaced. 1979 C&L Explorer 36'. Dad says this is overkill. We typically sail with my 3 little kids. What say you?

I am on the verge of just rigging out the dinghy and taking the 2 year old along for the ride, just to get some time on the water. I haven't sailed on a Sunfish sized boat since I was 7 though.

Elizabeth

Sabreman 08-16-2013 12:19 PM

Re: Rotten Luck - Stays & Dinghy Question
 
Seriously? Three broken stays and you even have to ask?

Replace the stays, turnbuckles, shackles and pins.. end to end.

It's not been a rough week for you, it's been a great week. You could have easily lost your rig and injured yourself or dad.

Dick6969 08-16-2013 12:32 PM

Re: Rotten Luck - Stays & Dinghy Question
 
Back stay broke 3 weeks ago. 5' seas 10 -15 knots winds. Was lucky the whole rig didn't come down. To my sons quick thinking, drop sails, tighten topping lift and main sheets, snatch block, line, secure line to back stay and in snatch block then to wench... Motored on in about 12 miles. To make a long story short, replaced it all the next week. You should do the same...

windwalker 08-16-2013 01:25 PM

Re: Rotten Luck - Stays & Dinghy Question
 
Dad is the experienced sailor of the lot. He says we're noobs. So I was double checking that mom and I were right.

nolatom 08-16-2013 01:25 PM

Re: Rotten Luck - Stays & Dinghy Question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick6969 (Post 1074837)
Back stay broke 3 weeks ago. 5" seas 10 -15 knots winds. Was lucky the whole rig didn't come down. To my sons quick thinking, drop sails, tighten topping lift and main sheets, snatch block, line, secure line to back stay and in snatch block then to wench... Motored on in about 12 miles. To make a long story short, replaced it all the next week. You should do the same...

As they say in golf, hockey, sailing, and indeed in life,

"Nice Save"!! And your son's a quick-thinker and even better, a quick actor.

Absent topping lift on a smaller vessel, the answer would be to keep the main up and hope the leech, with tension from the mainsheet, is strong enough to hold the mast up for a couple of minutes at least, while you try to use a halyard led aft to a deck fitting and winched tight to take the strain off the sailcloth.

To paraphrase "any landing you walk away from is a good landing",

"any stay failure where the mast ends up still vertical, is a good stay failure" ;-)

Dick6969 08-16-2013 02:12 PM

Re: Rotten Luck - Stays & Dinghy Question
 
True that...

Sabreman 08-16-2013 02:23 PM

Re: Rotten Luck - Stays & Dinghy Question
 
Quote:

double checking that mom and I were right
Mom is always right.

paul323 08-16-2013 02:49 PM

Re: Rotten Luck - Stays & Dinghy Question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabreman (Post 1074835)
Seriously? Three broken stays and you even have to ask?

Sabreman is absolutely correct. (In both his replies!)

There is no doubt, question, or hesitation required. Replace them all, and be nice to your boat for telling you so politely that the work needs to be done.

mjf55 08-16-2013 04:40 PM

Re: Rotten Luck - Stays & Dinghy Question
 
And don't forget to inspect / replace the chain plates.

Sent from my rooted DROID X2

tomandchris 08-16-2013 07:45 PM

Re: Rotten Luck - Stays & Dinghy Question
 
I would ask your dad how he would feel if the rig came down on your kids, you, or mom. Then I would replace it all no matter what he says. Mom is in, thats all you really need!:laugher

The boat HAS been nice enough to let you know there is a problem. let the rigger tell you how big of a problem.


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