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"I have no real sailing experience, but feel that I can do it. Am I fooling myself. ... about a mile offshore...How much sailing experience do I need to pull this off??

You'd kill yourself. Plain and simple, it is the ocean, it is not a lake. The waves are often larger, the shore is often lee, and there will be long stretches where you will be blown on shore, on rocks, with no way to avoid them. And that's oversimplifying it.

There are large sections off the Jersey shore, and then down by Hatteras, where the waters in-shore are considered treacherous and they've been killing people for centuries. Sailors stay out, way out, to avoid the conditions there.

Either you "drive the bus" down the ICW for weeks, or you go offshore and take careful note of when and where there are inlets you can use--or can't--to head in and take shelter.

You really want to read up on ocean sailing, on coastal sailing, and expand your horizons a bit. What you want to do is simply not feasible, much less safe.
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The Coast Guard helo pilots and rescue swimmers aren't busy enough???
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For $15K there are many good boats available that could easily do it. For example, my own 28' S2 (1981) is valued at about $10K and would probably sell for $8K would do the job and there are many like her out there. I have been considering a Morgan 34 for $10K that would do the job nicely. Of course, I'd tear out all the BS you don't need (marine head, oven, fancy electronics, pressure water, etc) and go spartan and re-do the standing rigging, overhaul the engine (do it myself) and get by for very little while learnign all about the boat.
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For $15K there are many good boats available that could easily do it. For example, my own 28' S2 (1981) is valued at about $10K and would probably sell for $8K would do the job and there are many like her out there. I have been considering a Morgan 34 for $10K that would do the job nicely. Of course, I'd tear out all the BS you don't need (marine head, oven, fancy electronics, pressure water, etc) and go spartan and re-do the standing rigging, overhaul the engine (do it myself) and get by for very little while learnign all about the boat.
Thank you for the response. Im realy starting to like the sailing community. I get good vibes about the people. Im the type that gets an Idea, and goes.Ill deal with all the problems as they arise.However I think this type of adventure I better plan out a little more. I have been reading and will continue-Randy
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I get the point, I will do a lot of research and practice on some big lakes before I go. Im not looking to kill myself. I want to have fun I plan on taking my sister and girlfriend whoever she may be. My Idea was to stay close to shore say a mile or two, Does that make sense?? If there are any problems I can get to land quickly--Rand
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"I have no real sailing experience, but feel that I can do it. Am I fooling myself. ... about a mile offshore...How much sailing experience do I need to pull this off??

You'd kill yourself. Plain and simple, it is the ocean, it is not a lake. The waves are often larger, the shore is often lee, and there will be long stretches where you will be blown on shore, on rocks, with no way to avoid them. And that's oversimplifying it.

There are large sections off the Jersey shore, and then down by Hatteras, where the waters in-shore are considered treacherous and they've been killing people for centuries. Sailors stay out, way out, to avoid the conditions there.

Either you "drive the bus" down the ICW for weeks, or you go offshore and take careful note of when and where there are inlets you can use--or can't--to head in and take shelter.

You really want to read up on ocean sailing, on coastal sailing, and expand your horizons a bit. What you want to do is simply not feasible, much less safe.
Thanks for the real truth, That's what Im looking for, I will continue to read up and learn as much as possible. Im about a year out and will take all the advice I can get. I have a habit of jumping into things, and pulling them off but with cosequences. I want this to be fun. Question:?? How far Out do I have to sail to avoid the problems but still be close enough to take cover. What are the worst seas I can stay out in?? Randy
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I get the point, I will do a lot of research and practice on some big lakes before I go. Im not looking to kill myself. I want to have fun I plan on taking my sister and girlfriend whoever she may be. My Idea was to stay close to shore say a mile or two, Does that make sense?? If there are any problems I can get to land quickly--Rand
If you want to discharge overboard, you need to be 3 miles offshore.
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...My Idea was to stay close to shore say a mile or two, Does that make sense?? If there are any problems I can get to land quickly--Rand
That makes perfect sense unless your thoughts are to anchor out there. With some experience you'll learn how to plan your voyages and how to determine which inlet is best under whatever circumstances you find yourself in. Some are safer than others. Guidebooks and local knowledge are your best sources.

If you want to stay offshore, are you prepared to stand a 24-hour watch? Because that is what is legally required.

Can you jump on a boat and go? Absolutely. Safely? Probably not. And passengers add an additional layer to your responsibility as the boat's owner.
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...Question:?? How far Out do I have to sail to avoid the problems but still be close enough to take cover. What are the worst seas I can stay out in?? Randy
Short answer is it depends on your skills and the strength of your boat. Not all boats are designed to take whatever the ocean throws at it.
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