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Re: upraded my 22' for a 30' and now afraid to leave the slip

the only way to get over your fear is to face it, confront it, and just do it. On a calmish day, you and your wife need to spend an hour or two just docking. In, out, repeat. then repeat again. then repeat again.
You and your wife need to keep communicating while you do it, talking through it, picking up what is working and what isn't, fine tuning your docking routine.

My wife and still spend an hour at the beginning of each season doing docking drills, just to refresh the skillset that lies dormant over winter.

Besides, who doesn't like an afternoon of in and out with their wife?
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I was given the tip to get on the opposite side of the wheel facing astern when backing into the slip...if the boat starts to walk or get out of shape shift back into forward to straighten out...have used this technique on our IB30 in challenging conditions with grwat success. . Good luck
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Re: upraded my 22' for a 30' and now afraid to leave the slip

The video Denise included is very helpful. Watch it carefully. As others have said, if the conditions are bad, why are you going out? Pick your days/times and work up to being able to go out comfortably. More importantly, practice, practice, practice.

I just moved from a Catalina 25 to our Allmand 31. It's like night and day. I actually think docking is easier with the Allmand. Now, I'm not at my old marina any more and specifically picked this marina and slip because it would be easy to into/out of, but I've already docked the A31 in conditions that would have been tough in the C25. As others have said, take it SLOW. On Sunday when we docked, I took the transmission out of gear about 1/4 mile from my slip, and when I took it out of gear I was only going 1.5 MPH. We coasted all the way into the slip (my dad was amazed). I kept the engine running just in case I needed it, but I crept in pathetically slow. I'd rather have the reputation as the guy whose boat ducks can swim circles around than the guy who crashes through docks.
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Re: upraded my 22' for a 30' and now afraid to leave the slip

Good idea to practice out in the open water and get a good feel for the boat. Next, if you have long service dock or something similar, practice coming up to it (pretending it is your slip) and stopping before a specific cleat or marker on the dock. That way if you have to much forward momentum, there is nothing to hit! If the dock is accessible on both sides you can practice (depending on the wind) with different wind conditions. Some insurance could be added by using a few more fenders.
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Re: upraded my 22' for a 30' and now afraid to leave the slip

I echo the sentiments of everyone else...pick a day when there is no wind and practice over and over. Midweek/mid day at our marina is a ghost town...so no one would be there to witness! You will get the hang of it...my wife and I did the exact same thing when we went from a 22' to a 28' sailboat. We also strung some ropes between the pilings at the beginning and end of our docks which gives us something to grab onto if we start drifting to far...haven't really used them, but they are resassuring and help to deliniate our slip space from our neighbor.

I also researched how to more effectively use prop walk...which can be quite helpful...googling it will turn up lots of information. Boat hooks also help, they even have piling hooks with loops at the end to help grab a piling if need be...lastly, just go SLOW...
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Re: upraded my 22' for a 30' and now afraid to leave the slip

It sounds like practicing in open water would be a good trick as it would help you get a feel for the throttle and steering in less tight conditions. Maybe rig some fenders up with weights and practice maneuvering between them at low speeds...
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Re: upraded my 22' for a 30' and now afraid to leave the slip

You kind of jumped straight into the fire, doing this on a 20 knot day, with a new boat. Now it's made you gun-shy.

Practice on calmer days, will build confidence. You'll grow into your new boat. The Catalina 30 is a nice cruising boat. You'll get the hang of it.
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Re: upraded my 22' for a 30' and now afraid to leave the slip

I did find there to be a learning curve when going from an outboard to an inboard. With the outboard there isn't a lot of prop walk and you could turn the motor for gross steering. With the inboard you need to understand what prop walk is going to do during low speed maneuvering.

I went out with some friends who gave me helpful advice. If I were doing it again I'd have found a larger unoccupied slip than my own and practiced docking and leaving there in light conditions before trying my own slip.

You'll get a hang out of it, just start out with easier days.
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Re: upraded my 22' for a 30' and now afraid to leave the slip

I right there with you. I went from 27' (outboard) to 40' (inboard). It feels like an aircraft carrier. My slip is about 15' wide, and my boat has a beam of 13'6". I also have to dock stern-in.

The key for me is to work with the wind and current and take my time. And I'm perfectly happy to bail out and try again if things are looking iffy. There's also no way I'd try it alone yet. I need help from my crew on lines and fending.

I was given the advice that the only way to learn to dock well is to dock the boat. So that's what I'm practicing. But I also agree with the advice to practice boat handling in open water just to get a feel for doing back-and-fill turns, etc. You HAVE to be comfortable keeping the boat under control.

My docking isn't pretty yet, but I can get it done after only a couple of times out. You will get the hang of it.
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Re: upraded my 22' for a 30' and now afraid to leave the slip

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It feels like an aircraft carrier.
Here's a page from the sales brochure for Smack's boat. It's easy to see why he's still struggling with docking.

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