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jackdale 12-10-2013 08:25 PM

ASA instructor certification?
 
I am contemplating getting my ASA instructor certification. For those of you who are ASA instructors, what are the positives and negatives?

I will not be operating in US waters, so I will not require a CG licence.

PMs might be appropriate in some cases.

Thanks

Jack

chucklesR 12-11-2013 09:16 AM

Re: ASA instructor certification?
 
Jack,
I'd like to know how this comes out, at least the overall picture.

I can not imagine how an ASA sheepskin would help you given your present qualifications.
Quote:

ISPA Yachtmaster Offshore Instructor Evaluator
CYA Advanced Cruising Instructor
IYT Yachtmaster Coastal Instructor

jackdale 12-11-2013 10:24 AM

Re: ASA instructor certification?
 
One of the sailing schools for which I do a lot of work is going ASA and asked me to do a crossover.

I have do a separate catamaran instructor certification. The school is a dealer for a catamaran company.

Another arrow in the quiver.

nolatom 12-11-2013 05:42 PM

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Sent you a PM.

davidpm 12-11-2013 09:52 PM

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I got my asa instructor cert this past spring.
I was not able to land a teaching gig from ASA, just did private lessons.

One downside is that if you are not affiliated with an ASA school even if you are a certified instructor you can't give your private students an ASA cert.

I understand why and is probably a good thing but should be known however.

ASA has a website for instructors looking for jobs.

They have a very good beginners book.
They have a good list of skills they expect you to cover for each level.

I was impressed with the effort they give to have the certificate be meaningful but that being said many schools teach 101 in two day.
Unless a person has some prior experience it is probably impossible to take someone who has never been on a boat before and really get them where they can pilot their own boat.

But it is a good introduction and they really try.
I think for most students it ends up being a list of things they need to learn on their own.

The instructors have widely varying styles, I've taken many classes both as a student and as an instructor.
I'm amazed at the difference in styles.

jackdale 12-11-2013 11:39 PM

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Thanks David

The ASA and CYA standards are very similar. The one difference appears to be a separate catamaran standard, which I will need to secure. The charter company / sailing school is also a cat dealer.

Instructor styles can be quite different. I premise my basic level courses on the welcome I got my my first evaluator, "Welcome to the British Columbia hospitality industry." Firs and foremost the clients / students want as good time. At more advanced levels I am more rigid. But the standard is the standard and I modify what I teach and assess accordingly.

Tempest 12-12-2013 05:49 AM

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Jack, I think it's probably a business decision for you at this point. Will they allow you to skip the pre-req and just take the CCMI (214) Clinic. If they expect you to take
201 that's 2 clinics, about $525.00 plus travel and expenses. Otherwise it's usually about $225.00 for 214 alone. If the school gives you enough courses you should get your investment back. There's also an annual membership/instructor fee. (under $100)

azguy 12-12-2013 09:19 AM

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Can you become an ASA instructor without a Captains License...?

nolatom 12-12-2013 12:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by azguy (Post 1213098)
Can you become an ASA instructor without a Captains License...?

I'm pretty sure the answer is "yes". In the US, I understand you need a license only if your sailboat also has mechanical propulsion. no engine, no license, at least for the smaller tonnages. So, teaching in that Flying Scot club school, no paper needed of any kind. To give out an ASA cert, obviously the instructor, or his/her supervisor, needs the ASA cert.

And i guess "Basic Keelboat" requires a keel? I don't know that.

BTW i teach Basic Keelboat under the auspices of the facility's owner, who is so certified. Some day I'll get the cert. But I do have a 100- ton coastal aux. sail/motor/steam ( the latter damn unlikely ;-) license.

jackdale 12-12-2013 01:14 PM

Re: ASA instructor certification?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 1212746)
Jack, I think it's probably a business decision for you at this point. Will they allow you to skip the pre-req and just take the CCMI (214) Clinic. If they expect you to take
201 that's 2 clinics, about $525.00 plus travel and expenses. Otherwise it's usually about $225.00 for 214 alone. If the school gives you enough courses you should get your investment back. There's also an annual membership/instructor fee. (under $100)

Tempest

Thanks, you are absolutely right.

Apparently CYA (now Sail Canada) and ASA can recognize each others certifications. The standards are vertically identical, the one big exception is the cat standard, for which I will likely have to attend a clinic.

I did decide to pay the fees for 2014. And I am getting the information on the cat certification. I have taught on both power cats and sail cats. As an ISPA powerboat instructor I am accustomed to two engines, they make docking rather easy. As well, the systems on cats resemble power boat systems somewhat.

The travel is the killer, but I have been asked to one delivery that will make the whole exercise worthwhile.

Now do I add this to my signature? :o


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