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Had an oopsie, need the name of a part.

So there I was enjoying my day sailing along at break neck speeds.

Went for a tack and the mast went and when it ended up on the other side like normal the connector that holds one of my side stays to the boat snapped and down went the mast.

I redid all my standing rigging except for reusing those old connectors so I will be replacing those.

Everything is fine except for that connector and the aluminum mount that holds the mast to the boat.

Where do I find that mount and is there a specific name for it?
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Re: Had an oopsie, need the name of a part.

Sounds like you're talking about a mast step and a Turnbuckle

You didn't say what boat you have, it would help in identifying the correct parts.

https://www.google.com/search?q=mast...ml%3B400%3B366

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...Fe07Ogodc3wAOA

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Re: Had an oopsie, need the name of a part.

pics...bud


you need to learn the basic terms so people on here know what you are talking about exactly

if I were to guess what you are trying to say

connectors are turnbuckles or toggles
aluminum mount tang or strap

I beleive on your other thread you just purchased a dinghy...if so its likely you dont have turnbuckles but adjustable tangs or extenders that have many holes in them that you adjust by moving the pins up or down... what the wires are attached are called terminals or swaged eyes or ends...

anyways a pic would help us understanding what your next course of action is

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Re: Had an oopsie, need the name of a part.

The aluminum mount that "holds the mast to the boat" is usually called a tabernacle on the smaller sailboats.
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Re: Had an oopsie, need the name of a part.

I have a Sirocco 15' and mast step/tabernacle is what I was after.

I do have the adjusters with many holes but I would not mind switching to turnbuckles, is there a specific style I should use?

My wire is ~400 lb working load limit 7x7 1/8"
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I have a Sirocco 15' and mast step/tabernacle is what I was after.

I do have the adjusters with many holes but I would not mind switching to turnbuckles, is there a specific style I should use?

My wire is ~400 lb working load limit 7x7 1/8"
on dinghies its much faster and easier to rig with the extender plates...clip and go...

have you found a new mast step, tabernacle? if not you can probably have one made

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Does anyone have an estimate of the working load or breaking strength of the adjusters with several holes in them?
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Soooo picture time!

http://i.imgur.com/b0oyFGs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GADc6hg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9ccepgj.jpg

I have no idea if the measurements will help anyone with finding a replacement but.

Mast Width - 2 3/8"

Mount width - 3 1/4"
Mount length - 3 1/2"

Hole and slot width - 1/2" and 3/8"

Distance from bottom to bottom of hole - 1 3/8"
Distance from bottom to bottom of slot - 2"

Bolt holes - 1/4"
Bolt hole distance width wise - 1"
Bolt hole distance length wise - 1 5/8"

As for the connector I did some csi work today and the person that was with me said he disconnected that stay after the mast fell so I checked the connector and it was fine.

To make sure it was fine I loaded about 250 lbs of weight hanging from it to see if it was cracked or something that I could not see.

I think what happened was the stays were a bit too loose and the mast had some side to side give and ended up snapping this mount when the boom switched from a tack, does that sound plausible? It is the only thing that is broken.
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Re: Had an oopsie, need the name of a part.

Sirocco are long out of business, so you can't get spares through them. If there's any kind of class association, you might ask them. If there's any brand name on the mast and boom, or if you can find out who made them, you may be able to get a mast step/tabernacle from the same source.

It may be quicker simpler and cheaper to find a local machine shop, take the broken parts to them and ask them if they can fabricate new ones. The good adjustment strap, the one that didn't break, should probably also be replaced. If this boat is 30-40 years old, basically all the standing rigging parts (any turnbuckles, straps, etc.) may need replacing and while it may hurt to replace "perfectly good" parts, once they're over 20 years old they really are due for replacement no matter how good they look. The same goes for any wire/cable in the standing rigging. You just can't see the corrosion problems that develop, even in stainless steel, as it ages.
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