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Taking my ASA101 and 103 at once

I'm totally new to sailing, and I'm finally taking the first steps to learning how!

I enrolled in a dual ASA101/103 course, and I've been studying the texts and materials, yet I am curious as to how difficult (or easy) it will be to earn both certifications???

I've never even been on a boat, but it's always been a passion of mine. Most of it seems rather straightforward, yet some things look a bit more tricky...

I'm just wondering if I am trying to tackle too much at once, or if I'm just being paranoid....
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Re: Taking my ASA101 and 103 at once

Read your text, listen to your instructor and relax, you'll do fine but, study the text

btw, we do 101/103 as a basic package over two consecutive weekends ( 20 hrs ) again study and you'll be fine
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Re: Taking my ASA101 and 103 at once

Rich_engr where are you taking lessons? I am looking to go to Woodbridge Sailing School when I return from vacation this summer. Good luck and let us know how it works out.
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Re: Taking my ASA101 and 103 at once

The key to success is to practice with the boat without the instructor. When I teach, I try to cover all of the basics, but sometimes am limited by the student's knowledge or experience.

You will meet people in the class. After the 101 class, you and another student should ask to take the boat that you learned on, for at least a half day, on your own.
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Re: Taking my ASA101 and 103 at once

I personally think it a mistake for someone new to sailing to take the 103 immediately following the 101. After your 101 you should practice what you have experienced in class, the practice is key to burning in the concepts, and to making much of sailing as second-nature as it should become.Then when you go to 103, if there are things you didn't get right or forgot from 101, you have a chance to fill them in as you learn the new material. Go right into the 103 and what you dont have down after 101, you are likely to still not have down after 103.
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I personally think it a mistake for someone new to sailing to take the 103 immediately following the 101. After your 101 you should practice what you have experienced in class, the practice is key to burning in the concepts, and to making much of sailing as second-nature as it should become.Then when you go to 103, if there are things you didn't get right or forgot from 101, you have a chance to fill them in as you learn the new material. Go right into the 103 and what you dont have down after 101, you are likely to still not have down after 103.
I agree with ya, practice is always best but, I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a mistake as it really depends on the student and the instructors evaluation of the student.

You'll know early on who gets it and who doesn't, who needs more time and who could handle moving forward.
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Re: Taking my ASA101 and 103 at once

Everyone- thank you for the replies! Definitely gets one thinking...

Still, regarding the 103 class, it seems a lot of the material is just an extension of the 101, just with a little more detail...

I'll be attending the Maryland School of Sailing & Seamanship. The 101 is taught as a full 4 day, then the 103 is a full 3 day (both are live-aboard). Class of 4 (or 5) taught on a 32ft packet boat, so definitely gives me a feel for the mid/larger boats, and small class size seems like a good fit.

I dunno... guess it seems like it'll be a lot of hand/mind coordination with some solid common sense. Understanding hydro/aerodynamics isn't too bad, and remembering which of the road rules applies will take some practice. Obviously there's an infinite amount to learn, based on difference scenarios, Wx, locations, etc., that makes each sailor's background unique.

Still, looking forward to it. Either way it's a starting point!!!
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Re: Taking my ASA101 and 103 at once

IMHO more than 3 is a big class, and 101 on 32 a bad idea. You wont get much boat handling drill in with that big a boat. For example a common 101 drill is sailing figure 8s around a pair of floats about 100 feet apart. First tacking for awhile, then gybing, then windward/leeward. Maybe 5-600 iterations of the basics, and they become natural. 32 footer, maybe 10% of that...
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Re: Taking my ASA101 and 103 at once

It's all about individual aptitude. Some people learn quickly, others don't. That does not mean those that don't learn quickly, don't become equally proficient, they just take longer to get there.

You need to know yourself, to know what will work for you. Combining the two is done all time.
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Re: Taking my ASA101 and 103 at once

I agree with sailingfool about the size of the vessel; taking ASA 101 on a big boat (over 10K lbs) is less than optimal. Smaller boats will respond more quickly to your input to the helm or sails than a larger, heavier boat. Making the transition from small boat to larger boat is logical and easy; making the transition from big to small, not so much.

Regarding class size; I think that for 101 a group of 3 or 4 would be OK. The key here is that each student needs lots of time at the helm. And, for 103, a group of 4 (or 5) is fine, but no more. Students learn by doing, but they also learn by observing what other students do well, and by the mistakes other students make.
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