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Yup, that's the story I was talking about... very sad...tragic...but unfortunately, it was totally avoidable...

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"I can see why they'd need more employees, after this troupe didn't do their jobs. " Actually the article indicates they DID do their jobs, as they had been taught and to the standards that were applied.

Which sadly did not include carrying and using a safety knife or having masthead floats. It sounds very much like the usual world-wide standard of hiring young inexperienced help and looking after profits first and foremost.

The same practice which gives us freighters and cruise liners running with no bridge watch, and Princess lines claiming a junior officer had the bridge but didn't know how to turn the Crown Princess so recently.
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Most prudent sailors I know carry a knife, regardless of what they're sailing on, what the weather is like, or who is with them...

Sailboats have way too many ways to snare a person who doesn't have a knife handy to not carry one.

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Don't you know, knives are so Politically Incorrect these days. Some years pre-9/11 I was taking the NYC subway down to South Street to hop a boat and stopped to wonder how the NYPD would react if they noticed my sheath knife. I suppose these days they'd lock down the entire city and call out the anti-terror teams.

But I don't recall that the sailing schools ever "teach" to carry a knife. I think what surprises people most is that I won't let mine be used for things like lunch. (Keeps the blade sharper that way.)
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Yes, but even as paranoid as the idiots in charge currently are, carrying a personal pocket knife is still legal on the street/in public, provided the blade is shorter than 2.5" or so. It would be a problem on an airplane, but if the TSA could stop the terrorists from getting aboard, then carrying a lighter or knife on the plane wouldn't be a problem.

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Hey fellas, this young bloke started out asking for advice. You gotta take into account he is a young fella and at that age lacks experience in certain fields.
Lets just give him advice that he can use and let him figure out what to do with it.
I have a son that age and it works for him.
As for his mate who is involved with Sunsail or whatever, let them work on that.
Don't crush him too early in life or he wont attempt to get those valuable life skills and experience.
Yeah..I know...I am a softie...
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