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The guy has exactly three posts... all of which are exactly the same... on most forums that is considered SPAMMING

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As I am (obviously) new to posting on boards, I appologize for posting the same response in difference places and "answering an old thread." Having said that, I don't see that it's appropriate to say "You must be an idiot" either... Seems a bit junior high to me.
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ASANC,

Thanks for your response. I have taught for both ASA and US sailing and I am glad there was no US Sailing-bashing. I think both are good organizations, but it is the actual school AND instructor that makes the difference!!
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Other than the fighting posts, I would like to thank all for posting to this as I'm trying to judge between these 2 schools and also the avenue of no school at all, just going sailing.
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Other than the fighting posts, I would like to thank all for posting to this as I'm trying to judge between these 2 schools and also the avenue of no school at all, just going sailing.
I would definitely recommend instruction, and if you're lucky enough to have BOTH ASA- and US Sailing-affiliated schools nearby, don't complain about it, just pick one. As the previous posted said, the actual instructor and school matter more than it's affiliation IMHO.
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I've (part-time, weekend/evening gigs) taught ASA basic keelboat so as to issue certificates, and have taught in an adult ed class on centerboarders out of a yacht club program using the USSA book, no certificates issued.

I do not have a teaching certificate from either one... but I do hold a 6th-issue 100-ton Aux. Sail license, and agree with a previous (long, old) post that there's no substitute for time on the water for all sailors, especially the instructors.

That said, it seems to me that ASA is slightly more cruising-oriented, and USSA more racing-oriented, which reflects the origin of each Association. The wise advice is similar to scuba instruction in my opinion, namely, "the instructor is more important than the certifying agency".

If I had a choice of schools (and you do, apparently), and I knew I wanted to end up racing, I'd probably pick USSA (again, depends on the instructor); if not, I'd toss a coin.

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Thanks. . .Actually the issue is that the USSA guy wants about $125 for his basic class and the ASA place wants $495. Classes are about the same length of time. I was just wondering if there was a huge difference in content based on the association.

Since time on the water practicing is the most important factor, I was also thinking that I might be better off just putting that money into the boat.
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I spent a few years in a club that offered lessons to it's members at half price (US Sailing) and chartered boats at half off too. It ended up being cheaper than owning for that period and the instruction was top notch. That way you can get instruction and time on the water without a lot of cash outlay. The club I was at had a variety of boats, so you could try out different ones and get a better feel for what you like and don't like before you go and buy.

Anyway, I was a moderately experienced small boat sailor with very little larger boat experience and I found the classes invaluable even though most of the 'book' material was a review.

When I was ready to buy I left the club knowing a lot more about what I wanted.

That particular club had a program where you could buy one of their boats as long as you kept it it in the club for a couple of years, earning a percentage on it's rental, no slip fee, and they did the maintenance. If I had lived closer I might have thought about it.

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