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Wow, what a bunch of girly men. "Don't heel, its dangerous and you might flip." You guys sound like you are cowering in the corner sucking your thumbs at the thought of a puff of wind. You are sailors for God's sakes not Chamber Maids.
I sailed a J24 for years and you would really have to be pushing it to flip it. Go out there and enjoy yourself. If you like the way it feels when it heels do it. If you are racing, get some meat on the rails and find the balance that will help you go the fastest. Geez, wrong place to ask that question...obviously.
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I don't mind heeling on a J/24. It's really designed for it...and last two times I was out on one, we had a spinnaker up, and on one occasion we broached the boat...and the boat was heeled over 75 degrees, with me sitting on the lifelines, up to my hips in water... A lot of fun...but not exactly recommended technique on a tri.
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Alright, SDog, you are not a girlie man. Everyone else: What I said before still applies.
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When I'm sailing with the guys the lower rail's usually in the water. When on the Hobiecats I usually take out from resort beaches, I'm hiked out and finding that groove.

But I guess I have to act like a "girlie-man" when my wife is onboard our boat - she's got a fear of heeling beyond 10 degrees. The girls must stay happy and comfortable you know.
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But I guess I have to act like a "girlie-man" when my wife is onboard our boat - she's got a fear of heeling beyond 10 degrees. The girls must stay happy and comfortable you know.
At least if you know what is good for you. Getting the women in your life stirred up and pissed off is generally a bad thing... and unhealthy.
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Thanks for all the great beta guys. Gee, its my wife who is primarily the one coaxing me to set the J24 on its edge...Lucky me. We are absolutely keeping in mind the chance of capsize, etc. I.e.: keeping safe distances, within our limits/knowledge, closing everything up tight, etc.
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Rails in the water is not the threat... it's flying the spinnaker on the downwind when you can lose it...

Make sure the lazerettes are secured as posted earlier.

Also, you don't need the 150 genoa for 2 people... I'm using my small jib when I only have 2 or 3, and the boat feels more in balance too.

To make it sail flatter when it gets overpowered, let out the traveler, tighten the vang, put on the cunningham and some backstay... makes a huge difference...

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Alright, SDog, you are not a girlie man. Everyone else: What I said before still applies.
Man, you're a hoot, you really are. I told him how to do it, and how to get her to come back up.

I suppose I shouldn't have risen to the bait.... ;-)
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