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Technique for tying up a jib

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Recently, while on a 23' Sonar, the winds picked up and we decided to drop the jib. Not knowing what else to do, we left it, still connected to the jib halyard and jib sheets, piled up on the fore deck (is that the correct term?). As you imagine, it started to fall over the side, AND, the wind started to "pull it back up" the forestay.

When dropping a jib temporarily, what is a good technique to keep it stable but ready to be raised again?
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Re: Technique for tying up a jib

Lash it to the lifelines. Perhaps remove the halyard and clip to toenail.

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Re: Technique for tying up a jib

Thanks! … OK (beginner here), lifelines: Our Sonar doesn't have these.. I think that was part of the problem why the sail was falling overboard.

And when you say "lash" …with sail ties?

and finally (sorry… so stupid), what is the toenail?
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Re: Technique for tying up a jib

If possible try tying it up with something like sail ties, slack in the sheets, what ever is handy. If you have life lines, wad the sail up and use bungee cords. If no life lines try to tie it to something on the fore deck to keep it from getting blown over. If conditions allow try to disconnect the halyard and secure it separately. The idea is to make a low lying lump that the wind can not catch, tied to something to keep it from falling off the deck.

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Re: Technique for tying up a jib

OK… so basically just tie it up… a low lying lump ( i like that).

And disconnect the halyard. Attach it to? …the bottom of the forestay?

And if i don't have sail ties, and just have a line.. what knot would you recommend?
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Re: Technique for tying up a jib

If you have to pull the jib down because the weather is bad you will not want to spend too much time on the fore deck especially with no life lines. Attach the halyard to what ever is convenient that can withstand you giving it a good tug before you cleat it off. Shoe tie knots are good for bundling up the sail. What ever knot you can tie fast, maybe with one hand, that won't pull apart to attach the "lump" to the deck. Doesn't need to be sail ties. It is always good to have lots of shorter sections of line laying around for all kinds of quick fixes.

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Re: Technique for tying up a jib

Thanks again! .. going out this Saturday. I'll practice your tips.
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Re: Technique for tying up a jib

Install a jib downhaul. Keep the downhaul tight and the sheets tight. The sail will stay on the foredeck.

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Re: Technique for tying up a jib

or... rig a downhaul on the halyard and back to the cockpit... haul down the headsail, cleat off the downhaul and the halyard, snug the sheet and you are good without ever leaving the cockpit (assuming your jib halyard runs back to the cockpit)

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Re: Technique for tying up a jib

This is one of those things that I've done slightly differently just about every time I've had to do it.

One thing I've done is, after taking sail ties off the main, tie one of them to the pulpit. If you don't have a pulpit, a cleat will do. Then when the jib comes down you just put the sail tie over the jib to the opposite site of the pulpit or the opposite-side cleat.

In a pinch, another thing I've done is leave the jib halyard attached, pull a big bight of it under and around the jib and then tie it back onto itself with a rolling hitch.

Edit: I'm not crazy about jib downhauls. I haven't experimented much, but it has often jammed, during both hoists and douses; clutters the deck; and complicates the hoist/douse process.
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