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Re: Precision 165 good starter boat?
I always like the P165, cause it's a lot of boat for the size. Also the fractional rig means it'll sail even with ONLY the main up.
I've sadly NEVER sailed one (I skipped from 14 feet to 22 feet, and never the p165)... however, a club mate had one for a while and it looked to me to be both a decent sailing boat, yet very forgiving as the winds came up. It wasn't unusual to see him tooling around with just a full main up in 20 knot winds.
I also noted he was the only other person I saw out in 20-25 knots one weekday, with a reef in his main, and a partially unfurled jib. He was tooling along probably 5 knots drinking a coke and having a good time, so he didn't look the slightest bit concerned of the heavier air. We're an inland lake though, and while those winds are unusual, they also don't bring chop with it. The shorter waterline might be uncomfortable with a short steep chop. That's more an FYI than a real limitation, as it comes with the boat size.
I think it's remarkably dry compared to the P15, or the P185, probably on par with the P18 (keel centerboard model). The wing keel likely leads one to sail it flatter to keep it pointed upwind.
I think you could do a lot worse for a starter boat, and I've even recommended it to others as a good place to start as a family keelboat.
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