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Thanks for the explination, I have one more, What is tripping (something along those lines). I read about it when people are talking about big waves and long keels.
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Tripping is what happens when a boat gets broadsides to a wave and instead of sliding with the waves motion, the keel gets "caught" and trips the boat, causing it to capsize. It happens with some catamarans as well.
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Broach...
What it is:
When one loses the ability to turn the boat using the rudder and it rounds up so that it is broadside to the wind and heeled over, usually at an extreme angle, one has broached.

Note that this description is of a "round up" broach, in which the bow heads up into the wind. There is also a "round down" broach, in which the boat jibes and the wind is on the opposite side of the boat with the sails still trimmed to the other side. In big wind, this stops and typically lays the boat down. Normally, a "round down" is worse than a "round up."

Typical advice, I believe, is to release the sheets to recover, but if you have a preventer on it could be harder.

As for learning to fly a spinnaker, isn't it also common to simply keep the main covered and the genoa below deck, and only focus on the spinnaker to begin with?

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Yes Jim, a Chinese is definately worse than a wipe out. It also depends on the type boat ya have. One of the old IOR boats with pinched ends can get real dicey, real fast with a chute up in a breeze. Matter of fact, under spinnaker those boats never really settle down and ya spend a lot of time chasing the chute. Who else out there remembers Bloopers and such on those old Warhorses?
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As for learning to fly a spinnaker, isn't it also common to simply keep the main covered and the genoa below deck, and only focus on the spinnaker to begin with?

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I would NEVER recommend flying a chute without a mainsail up. It can be surprisingly difficult to douse without being able to hide the sail in the lee of the main, especially if the breeze unexpectedly builds on you.

When recovering from a broach, it is common to release a sheet or a guy, but never release both if you can help it. Release the sheet if you plan to carry on,(retrim when the boat comes back) or release the guy as a prelude to dropping the spinnaker if you've had enough. If you let go of both, then the chute is streaming from the masthead and both lines will be unreachable. In a real breeze (likely already the case if you are broaching) it is a bear to get the sail back on board. and it is slow going to weather with all that nylon flapping in the breeze - not to mention the potential damage to the sail.

Broaching to leeward and planting the pole is no fun... try to avoid running DDW in the heavier breezes, especially of your boat is an older IOR "death roll" machine.

But it's still lots of fun and satisfaction when things go right.
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Now, after all these dire warnings, do you still want to learn to fly the spinnaker??
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