Wing on wing

[puddinlegs]

"My experience is 30 true gusting up into the high 30s. Last time was with my old Sabre 28 which didn't plane but surfed like a bandit. We averaged 8.25 knots for over 10 miles in those conditions. A bit of a handful on the helm but never out of control. Some of the boats around us tried flying their chute which caused a lot of broaches. One even put a blooper which didn't work that well blowing it and the spinnaker out simultaneously. Just be careful or you might end up like the boat below."

A blooper... that's a blast from the wayback machine! In a displacement boat like a Saber 28, and we're obviously talking about racing here, 30 kts true is a lot as your apparent wind is still above 20kts. But 30 true in a boat that will sail 12-18kts, (thinking a ULDB like a Moore 24 or Express 27 for a similar sized comparison) can be pretty nice with a skilled helm and kite trimmers.

But again, what's your reasoning for tightening the outhauls and main halyard? I have to agree with George B on main trim for low angles, but don't know that I'd want to stick a spin pole between shrouds in any circumstance. :^)

[Sanduskysailor]

"But again, what's your reasoning for tightening the outhauls and main halyard? I have to agree with George B on main trim for low angles, but don't know that I'd want to stick a spin pole between shrouds in any circumstance. :^)" If you flatten the sail out it will have the largest amount of sail area presenting itself to the wind.

Positioning the pole between the shrouds was the only feasible option on a S-28. It worked o'k and was just a little bit tricky especially if the pole was highly loaded and you needed to jibe. I have been blessed with some talented foredeck people. You put the outboard end of the pole on the sheet never directly attached to the clew or bowline attaching the sheet to the clew. With the sheet and downhaul you can control the forward/aft movement of the pole

[jacksparo]

keep the boom to weather just to stay on starboard. you have to get a Walder boom brake of course .

[L124C]

Originally Posted by jacksparo

keep the boom to weather just to stay on starboard. you have to get a Walder boom brake of course .

Huh? I think the consensus here is that the Genoa should stay to weather, for reasons that make a lot of sense to me. Rights not being one of them.

[Sailormon6]

Originally Posted by Wayne25

OK is it:
Wing on Wing
Wing and wing
or
Wing to Wing
or any of the above?

Various authors in my sailing library agree that the correct term is "wing and wing," but, personally, I prefer to use the past participle in the passive voice, "wung out," e.g., "My sails was wung out."

[L124C]

Originally Posted by Sailormon6

Various authors in my sailing library agree that the correct term is "wing and wing," but, personally, I prefer to use the past participle in the passive voice, "wung out," e.g., "My sails was wung out."

Well then...sounds like if I had my my Main to Windward, I would have the Wong Wung to Weather!
Sorry!

[Waltthesalt]

Whisker to windward absolutely. You can always ease the whisker pole forward if you need to round up a bit or if the wind shifts. You can't do that with the main.