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Can someone please outline the responsibilites for a 10 person crew on a J120? We think we have a couple people doing the right jobs, but it would help out a lot if we could allocate our crew resources properly.

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From what I understand about sprit-boats, this is a bit like asking how many people it takes to replace a lightbulb. A J/120 at our club routinely races (and wins in competitive PHRF situations on Long Island Sound) with a skipper and one crew. Sounds like you''ll have to supply a lot of beer for those extra eight guys on the rail.
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That is a huge crew for a J-120. Normally, I would expect seven or eight on a boat that size and with an assymetrical chute some would be simply rail meat.

From the bow you would have a foredeck person, mast person, pit, two jib and spin trimmers, mainsail trimmer and helmsman. You might carry a couple people for rail meat and they can help on drops.

Their roles are as follows:
Foredeck person: Calls the line on statrs, prepares sails for raise, runs foot of chute aft on jibes, goes below and stuffs the chute on drops. (Should be light and strong.)

Mast person: Jumps halyards, makes sure that old sheet is running free on jibes, gather chute on drops, sometimes plays vang.

Pit: makes Halyard, vang, outhaul, adjustments, feeds out halyards on drops, watches the instruments and tracks lifts and headers calling out wind and boat speed chances, as well as, lifts or headers of more than a few degrees. The pit person does general housekeeping of all line passing over the house.

Two jib and spin trimmers: They alternate jobs depending on tack, every other tack they trim jib sheets, adjust jib sheet leads, call jib halyard tension, the ''lazy trimmer'' extends the pole and retracts the jib on a leeward rounding. Down wind the working trimmer moves forward out of the cockpit and the lazy trimmer does housekeeping and grinds the sheet winch in heavy air. The trimmer calls wind pressure and should talk the helmsman up or down. On beats the trimmer is the furthest to leeward and so calls crossing boats coming from leeward. One of the trimmers often act as ''deck captain'' calling out the type of douse or anything special that needs to happen to prep for a raise of douse and act as a second set of eyes to make sure that things are run properly and ready to go for the next raise, drop, tack or jibe.

Mainsail trimmer: Adjusts the mainsail and traveller, calls main halyard, cunningham and outhaul tension, is often the tactician or at the least funnels info coming back from other sources to the helmsman. If there is a remote backstay adjuster (ideal), the mainsheet trimmer adjusts the backstay, otherwise he calls backstay adjustments.


Helmsman: steers, makes final calls when there is conflicting information coming aft. With transom mounted backstay adjusters the helmsman adjusts the backstay tension. The helmsman''s primary focus should be on the sails and immeadiate wave action, or a compass course or marker in point to point racing.

Rail meat: Rail meat are responsible for monitoring and adjusting heel angles. They keep their eyes out on the course and call relative headings, boats coming in from windward, trends and wind patterns. They call larger waves from ahead on a beat or from astern on a run. During tacks with they help roll the boat and help make sure lines run free. In light winds they help support sheets reducing weight on the clew of the sails. The help gather chutes on douses. With ''euro'' style mainsheets they jump the mainsheet at leeward mark roundings. They may also help grind the sheets during roundings. They will also watch for lanes let the mainsheet trimmer or tactician know when there are good lanes to dig back in. They also block spray for the afterguard so big heavy people are preferable 8^).

120''s are neat boats-
Good luck out there,

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Jeff,

Thank you very much for your detailed reply. That was exactly what I was looking for and it helps a lot!

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Good job, Jeff. That was execellent. You might comment of the navigator-tactician.
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Jeff -

Do you see any major differences for crew on a First 40.7?
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Sure, the 120 uses assymetrical chutes and the 40.7 uses symetrical chutes. The backstay adjsuter is often remotely located on 40.7''s but are behind the helms man on 120''s. The 40.7''s race with Euro style mainsheets. The 120''s race with American style mainsheets. The 40.7''s are happier being sailed deeper. The 40.7 seems to be faster under spinacker in moderate winds.

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In a distance race you would have a dedicated navigator but in short course stuff, there is little real navigation so there is simply a kind of "anyone see the next mark" type of navigation. Tactics can be make or break on these boats on short courses where a small shift or a winder side of the course can pay off big.

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Jeff H--
I wonder if you or any of you forumites might have any thoughts about the S2 10.3? Better for racing than cruising? Overly IOR influenced? It looks late IOR to me, ie., not too distorted like some of the earlier ones. My needs are basically local cruising, liveaboard, casual buoys racing.
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