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The sail was NOT reefed yet as I was not keeled over much.
One hopes you weren't keeled over at all! If you were: I would humbly suggest less drinking and more sailing, whilst out on the boat.

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I don't recall genoas much over 160%, but maybe I'm out of touch.

Sounds like you have enough seagoing experience to figure out the weather helm issues as you go along. Whole point is, center of lateral resistance isn't going to change much on that S&S hull, except as you heel her she'll want to round up more. So adjust your sail plan to move the center of effort forward, which means more headsail and less mainsail, in a relative sense.
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My Morgan Classic 250 has a 180% gen.
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Back in the 70s and probably before a 170 % was the norm on a racing boat. That was when the rating rules penalized area in the main but not so much the head sail. Silly rule that lead to very small mains and huge head sails, not a very desirable arrangment.
If this was S & S design it may well ahve been designed to the rules from that era which also favoured a narrow pinched stern. That shape I believe will tend to round up more which does not help the situation.

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One hopes you weren't keeled over at all! If you were: I would humbly suggest less drinking and more sailing, whilst out on the boat.

Which is worse;
Keeled Over or Keel Hauled?

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OK heeled, keeled, Blah blah blah....
It does in fact have one 180% and a measured second 180%. I found this odd but more odd was reef points in a foresail??????
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Lots of foresails, especially on older boats, with larger hanked on sails, were often made with reef points... to help forestall headsail changes.

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IC..Thanks. Seems to me it's easer to swap them out. Thanks for all the input.
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Are we to assume your jib is on a furler? Someone here mentioned mast rake, but if you're able to point pretty well, I'd leave that alone. Having said that, it does sound like your rig might need a tweak. One rule is that if there's too much weather helm, tighten your forestay. If there is any Lee helm, tighten only the backstay. The boat should gently round up with your hands off the wheel when you've completed your adjustments.

An easy indicator is checking headstay sag when the boat is trying to round up. If you have more than 6-8 inches in 20 knots, tighten your forestay 1/2 turn at a time and recheck the boat balance.

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Not all boats will have slight weather helm. Some have lee helm due to their design, and in some cases it is not easy to get rid of the lee helm. IMHO, this is generally due to poorly thoughtout boat design.

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