topping lift - Page 2 - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Chat  
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > Skills and Seamanship > Learning to Sail
 Not a Member? 


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #11  
Old 07-28-2007
T37Chef's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,442
Thanks: 74
Thanked 41 Times in 36 Posts
Rep Power: 9
T37Chef will become famous soon enough
I do not have a topping lift, but do have a boom vang. Is there any advantage to adding a topping lift, if even necessary?

The only time I can see the benefit in having one is when tensioning the boom when the sail is down. I am now using the main halyard attached at the aft end of the boom to do this???
__________________
Cheers,
Shawn & the crew of S/V Windgeist

1982 Tartan 37 CB - Hull #358


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #12  
Old 07-28-2007
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Michigan
Posts: 555
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
tommyt is on a distinguished road
T37chef,

Really depends on what type of vang you have.Is it a traditional or rigid vang?

With a traditional vang the topping lift supports the boom and keeps it from crashing to the deck/cockpit. In that case your main halyard is serving as a topping lift, but what do you do between the time you drop the sail, disconnect the main halyard, and hook it to the end of the boom? My wife would not hold the boom up while I did the work. Much easier to tighten up the topping lift before dropping the sail and be done with it.

With a rigid vang there is really no need for a topping lift unless it is used for a dutchman system or something similar. Let out the vang to keep the boom off your canvas and harden up on the main and the boom is controlled.

I might have missed something in your question.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #13  
Old 07-28-2007
T37Chef's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,442
Thanks: 74
Thanked 41 Times in 36 Posts
Rep Power: 9
T37Chef will become famous soon enough
Thanks Tom,

It is a rigid piston type vang
__________________
Cheers,
Shawn & the crew of S/V Windgeist

1982 Tartan 37 CB - Hull #358


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #14  
Old 07-29-2007
sailingdog's Avatar
Telstar 28
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,290
Thanks: 0
Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts
Rep Power: 14
sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice
Also, the topping lift comes into play when reefing the main. Tensioning the topping lift makes putting in a reef much simpler and easier IMHO.
__________________
Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #15  
Old 07-29-2007
bestfriend's Avatar
Hitchin' a ride
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: In my mind, I live in Oslo
Posts: 3,191
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 11
bestfriend is a jewel in the rough bestfriend is a jewel in the rough bestfriend is a jewel in the rough
Thats it! Thats what I had a brain fart on before when I was trying to remember the other use for the topping lift. Takes the tension off the sail, drops easier. Thanks SD.
__________________
Great men always have too much sail up. - Christopher Buckley


Vaya con Dios
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #16  
Old 07-29-2007
sailingdog's Avatar
Telstar 28
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,290
Thanks: 0
Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts
Rep Power: 14
sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice
BF-

Also makes tightening the reefing clew line much simpler... since you're just tightening it, and not trying to lift the boom and sail at the same time—giving you a much better chance of tensioning the reefing clew line properly—since this line acts as an outhaul as well as attaching the reefed clew of the sail to the boom.
__________________
Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #17  
Old 07-29-2007
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Michigan
Posts: 555
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
tommyt is on a distinguished road
A rigid vang also adjusts the height/angle of the boom. If I did not have the Dutchman system for flaking the sail, which I really like, I would get the topping lift off of the boom. It is just one more line in that case for my purposes.
However, when I am decommisioning the boat it is a great tool when I take the boom off. Lets me get the vang off the boom, and then pull the pin and lower the boom to the deck in control.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #18  
Old 07-29-2007
Faster's Avatar
Just another Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Westminster, BC
Posts: 16,095
Thanks: 99
Thanked 281 Times in 271 Posts
Rep Power: 10
Faster has a spectacular aura about Faster has a spectacular aura about Faster has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by tommyt View Post
...However, when I am decommisioning the boat it (topping lift) is a great tool when I take the boom off. Lets me get the vang off the boom, and then pull the pin and lower the boom to the deck in control.
Couldn't you do the same with the main halyard at that time?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #19  
Old 07-29-2007
bestfriend's Avatar
Hitchin' a ride
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: In my mind, I live in Oslo
Posts: 3,191
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 11
bestfriend is a jewel in the rough bestfriend is a jewel in the rough bestfriend is a jewel in the rough
Quote:
Originally Posted by tommyt View Post
A rigid vang also adjusts the height/angle of the boom. If I did not have the Dutchman system for flaking the sail, which I really like, I would get the topping lift off of the boom. It is just one more line in that case for my purposes.
However, when I am decommisioning the boat it is a great tool when I take the boom off. Lets me get the vang off the boom, and then pull the pin and lower the boom to the deck in control.
Tommy I've got the Dutchman and it has its own adjustable line that is connected right under the topping. Do you have that on yours or is it attached to the topping?
__________________
Great men always have too much sail up. - Christopher Buckley


Vaya con Dios
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #20  
Old 08-03-2007
Lancer28's Avatar
I'm the FNG still...
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 397
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 8
Lancer28 is on a distinguished road
ok I'm confused. I use my topping lift to hold the boom before I furl my main. Otherwise, I leave it disconnected from the end of the boom and clipped on to the backstay tensioner where it is out of the way. Am I supposed to leave this attached??! How do you guys run beam reaches if you're still hooked into it - as I would imagine that it severly would limit how far the boom would travel?

OR, are you talking about a line not attached to the backstay for holding the boom, rather some sort of line from the masthead?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Topping Lift sehopkins Learning to Sail 12 11-06-2013 11:35 AM
Topping Lift jkrug Gear & Maintenance 18 05-04-2007 09:07 PM
Topping lift PBzeer Seamanship & Navigation 11 02-19-2004 07:39 PM
Keel Lift NJW3 Seamanship & Navigation 6 09-22-2003 06:59 PM
hard vang means no topping lift? jbarros Gear & Maintenance 14 07-11-2003 08:43 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:37 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.