Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items









Go Back   SailNet Community > General Interest Forums > Learning to Sail
 Not a Member? 



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 11-04-2007
merttan's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CT
Posts: 317
Rep Power: 5
merttan is on a distinguished road
Question Keeping the boat balanced...

Hello again,
I have a newbie question...
When I'm at an anchorage or mooring, my little 22 footer rocks like a craddle... Even though the winds or waves are not excessively heavy.Let's say 1-2ft seas and 5-10knots winds. I tried to use my 4 stroke outboard (since it's pretty heavy, 114lbs) as a stabilizer by lowering it into the water and it worked somewhat. Is there any other way? I thought about buying a stabilizer or a sea anchor. It's just hard to enjoy a lunch when everything is moving around... What do you guys think?
Thank you.
__________________
" I refuse to engage in an intellectual battle with an unarmed man!"

Materialism: Buying the things we don't need, with money we don't have, to impress people who don't matter.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 11-04-2007
deniseO30's Avatar
Lies about her age
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bristol pa
Posts: 3,639
Rep Power: 7
deniseO30 will become famous soon enough deniseO30 will become famous soon enough
not much you can do Mert! One reason I sold my 23 and got a 30 !
__________________
Denise, Bristol PA, Oday 30. On Tidal Delaware River, Anchor Yacht Club.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 11-04-2007
.
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,861
Rep Power: 10
Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice
Quote:
Originally Posted by merttan View Post
Hello again,
I have a newbie question...
When I'm at an anchorage or mooring, my little 22 footer rocks like a craddle... Even though the winds or waves are not excessively heavy.Let's say 1-2ft seas and 5-10knots winds. I tried to use my 4 stroke outboard (since it's pretty heavy, 114lbs) as a stabilizer by lowering it into the water and it worked somewhat. Is there any other way? I thought about buying a stabilizer or a sea anchor. It's just hard to enjoy a lunch when everything is moving around... What do you guys think?
Thank you.
Merttan,

That's the nature of the beast, however there are products you can buy that minimize the anchor roll. They're quite cheap, too. but take space when not in use.

See here


and here

They are self explanatory, and please make sure you give sailnet a call to buy them...I just used WM to show you the products
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 11-04-2007
sailingdog's Avatar
Telstar 28
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,315
Rep Power: 11
sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice
You don't say what kind of boat it is. Some designs are just more prone to rocking than others. The larger the boat, the less likely it is to have those issues to a degree, but a lot depends on the design—how much ballast, how deep the keel is, hull form, etc. 1-2' seas and 5-10 knots is really light conditions to have rocking be an issue IMHO though.

Some people will buy and deploy "flopper stoppers" which act as stabilizers to the boat, which Giu linked to... but for a 22' that's a bit excessive.
__________________
Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 11-04-2007
merttan's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CT
Posts: 317
Rep Power: 5
merttan is on a distinguished road
Techn. Info

It's a shoal box keel (1') &(2ft. draft)Ballast I assume about 500lbs. 5'6" beam,
21'11" LOA, 18' LWL Displacement about 2200lbs.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sailingdog View Post
You don't say what kind of boat it is. Some designs are just more prone to rocking than others. The larger the boat, the less likely it is to have those issues to a degree, but a lot depends on the design—how much ballast, how deep the keel is, hull form, etc. 1-2' seas and 5-10 knots is really light conditions to have rocking be an issue IMHO though.

Some people will buy and deploy "flopper stoppers" which act as stabilizers to the boat, which Giu linked to... but for a 22' that's a bit excessive.
__________________
" I refuse to engage in an intellectual battle with an unarmed man!"

Materialism: Buying the things we don't need, with money we don't have, to impress people who don't matter.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 11-04-2007
Faster's Avatar
Just another Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Westminster, BC
Posts: 9,275
Rep Power: 9
Faster has a spectacular aura about Faster has a spectacular aura about Faster has a spectacular aura about
As a cheap and easy- to-try measure, swing the boom outboard, tie it off and hang a bucket about 4 feet or so below the surface.

It may slow the rocking, but on a smallish boat it will also likely induce some heel too....
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 11-04-2007
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 1,328
Rep Power: 7
nolatom will become famous soon enough
You've described rocking as opposed to hobbyhorsing, I think.. So try Faster's idea, it may work.

If not, try leading the anchor rode to a different cleat or chock, maybe one that's a further distance away from the stem. That may "settle" the wind and seas on one side of the boat rather than both, and minimize the rolling.

This of course assumes you're describing rolling (rocking) and not pitching (hobbyhorsing).
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 11-05-2007
Zanshin's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Germany
Posts: 1,498
Rep Power: 6
Zanshin is on a distinguished road
I bought 4 military surplus drogues that I intend to use the same way to stop rolling around too much on some anchorages. They'll also double as backup real drogues as well. I haven't tried it yet but am optimistic.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 11-07-2007
Lancer28's Avatar
I'm the FNG still...
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 397
Rep Power: 5
Lancer28 is on a distinguished road
Sounds like you're swinging at the anchor? Try anchoring off the bow, then tying a rolling hitch to the rode and attaching that line to the back of your boat to set you at an angle to the wind...

check this out and let me know if it helps any; it was my thread on anchoring / mooring:

http://www.sailnet.com/forums/learning-sail/36422-preventing-reducing-anchor-swinging.html

If you "bridle" the anchor rode, then it loads up the windy side of the boat and makes you heel a couple of degrees and helps cut down the rocking and swaying too. Also, try to leave up a SMALL sail on the backstay to provide pressure against the rode. Last week, I saw a guy use two winter jackets to make an anchor sail.
__________________
Robert

I reject your reality and substitute my own.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Modern Hull forms and Motion Comfort Jeff_H Sailboat Design and Construction 34 04-13-2012 01:41 PM
Making Passage w/o a Rudder wind_magic Seamanship 60 07-16-2010 01:23 PM
What can you tell from the numbers? brazilnut Boat Review and Purchase Forum 10 07-01-2009 04:09 PM
Construction of a PVC (Divinycell) cored boat Giulietta Sailboat Design and Construction 8 10-19-2007 05:46 PM
Trailering? Pick a Boat Bruce Caldwell Cruising Articles 0 07-22-2004 08:00 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:02 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012