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Or you can always have a reef point put into your sail, till you learn to "sail it like you stole it".
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"Why can't you make the boat sail straight up and down?" Because we didn't buy me a catamaran. "Will it always be so leany" No, it only does that when you are here. "I have to go to the bathroom, can we go in?" Sorry the wind is going the wrong way, you will have to use that bucket!
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I KNOW Giu is channeling your wife! Tell your neighbor that at 30 degrees of heel most of the wind spills out of the sail ....... some people get their jollies by putting the rail in the water, but it really isn't very efficient. It could be also that the neighbor is the kind of dude who screams BOO! because it's fun to scare you! I would be inclined to find a sailmaker who will put in a couple reef points. You will go farther and faster with a reefed sail than a wet sail. With the reef (of course used in strong winds) you will lower the center of effort making the boat more stable and increasing the effectiveness of that effort. You don't need to try it to see, just look at sail racing photographs. All those guys sitting on or leaning over the high rail are trying to make the boat upright, so the wind does not spill out of the top of the sail and they will go faster!
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by the way, capn blu brought up catamarans.... one of the reasons cats are usually faster is that they don't put the rail in the water!
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Don't be afraid to put your rail in the water, everyone's comments about it not being a big deal are right on. However...

I'm gonna mention the real solution to the problem you stated. Take your sail to a local loft and get at least one reef point put in. Duh. Most boats, if the rail is in the water you are not sailing with maximum efficiently. If you are in 25 knot winds in a 20 foot boat, even a Cal 20, I would imagine having reef points as being useful.
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I was acused of channeling...which I don't even know what means..but I didn't do it....

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Most boats, if the rail is in the water you are not sailing with maximum efficiently. If you are in 25 knot winds in a 20 foot boat, even a Cal 20, I would imagine having reef points as being useful.
Not entirely true, SOME boats, with low free boards do bury the shoulder and still sail pretty well and fast (granted not as fast as if they were perfectly staright and level, and I don't care if some disagree)..because the rails are lower....leading many to conclude that if the rail is wet, then its not sailing properly...add to that low free board, a large beam, and the rail gets wet at lower angles..doesn't mean the boat is sailing bad...I have seen a few examples of this...here and there...if you know what I mean

some boats are designed with completely round hull sides to allow them to sail in those conditions...

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Stop sailing right now....are you nuts???? tilting the boat like that????

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I think Gui is channeling your wife.
Giu's actually pretty close - while yelling that characterization, envision her also crouching down on the lowest sole in the boat (usually wedged between the forward head door and locker), while clutching onto her shi-tzu.
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TB what type of clutch is shi-tzu clutch?? I googled and only got weird looking dogs....

your baot had a clutch? what for?
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